Craigslist, Ebay and other online buying/selling scams.
by Mccullough9122 Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:09 pm
I was almost scamed but thanks to this site i was saved here is a copy of the mail ref a camper van in the isle of man.

From: "Brian Crighton"

Cc:
Subject: Re: Peugeot BOXER 330 SWB 2008 MOTORHOME ELDDIS EXPLORER 3400 MILES.







Hi,

I can confirm that the vehicle is still for sale and that never been involved in an accident. Nobody smoked in and I never carried pets. Full history and V5 document are present, HPI is clear.
My last price is £ 5000.

The only reason for selling this vehicle so cheap is because I am involved in a military project and move to Mali on November 19 and come back after 6 months. It is the first time I will go to Mali so I'm a little nervous but excited.

It would be a shame to keep the vehicle in the garage 6 months without being used and I also need some cash before leaving to Mali.

Right now I am located in a small military base in the Isle of Man because our squad do some special training here.
The vehicle is here with me inside of the base garage.

In case you are still interested to buy it please write me back since I can deliver the vehicle anywhere in UK on my cost.

Thank you for being interested in my vehicle.
Brian Crighton,


aslo:
Hi again,

As I've said in my previous email I am currently located in the Isle of Man in the military base do daily trainings for 2 weeks to get ready to be deployed on mission in Mali . I'm doing a special training program each day and I am not allowed to get out of the unit or give calls whenever I want. The delivery will take 2 to 3 days depending on your location and it's not a problem because I can do it at no cost for you. Because it is a large transaction, we will complete the deal only using an authorized third part like Google Wallet because I already prearranged the whole process with them, using their Google Safe Pay Solutions (bank-to-bank wire transfer) for vehicles.

The money will be sent to Google Wallet, before you will receive the vehicle. So, you will deposit the payment directly into the Google Wallet agent's bank account in United Kingdom, either online or at most banks and they will hold and secure your money during the entire transaction. I repeat, they will hold and insure your money until receipt of the vehicle in good condition and will release the funds to us only after you decide to keep the vehicle and you register it, into your name. You will have an inspection period of 10 days. In this time you can check, test and inspect the vehicle. If by any reason (the vehicle has any hidden damages or is not like I describe it) you can reject the deal. In this case Google Wallet will refund you totally and they will deliver the vehicle back.
You can read more about Google Wallet here:
http://wallet.google.escrow.etecap.com. ... #how-works

Let me know your shipping details (your full name, full address and home phone number) so I can open a transaction case with Google Wallet and declare you as buyer. They will contact you with further information regarding payment and delivery.

Regards,
Brian,

I cant thank this site enough, :oh-joy:
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by Mccullough9122 Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:21 pm
heres another one i was looking at ref a camper van in Aberdeen ,he said he worked on the oil rigs.
Motorhome's description:fro"cax123uk" [email protected]

Chassis Make: PEUGEOT
Chassis Model: BOXER 290 LX SWB HDI
17 ft Length
2 Owners
Coach Built
4 Travelling Seats
Right Hand Drive
1997 cc
Manual
Rear wheel drive
Fixed Bunk Beds
7 ft Width
3,000 kg MTPLM
Full service history

2007 ELDDIS AUTO QUEST 100 MOTORHOME 4 Berth,
25,000 Miles, End Kitchen, 17 ft Length, White, Excellent Body Condition, Excellent Mechanical Condition, MOT and TAX Until September 2014, Chassis Model: PEUGEOT BOXER 290 LX SWB HDI, Coach Built, 4 Travelling Seats, Right Hand Drive, 1997 cc Diesel engine, Manual, Rear wheel drive, Fixed Bunk Beds, 7 ft Width, 3,000 kg MTPLM, Excellent Interior Condition, Excellent Overall Condition, Full service history non franchise. Fitted blinds, fly screens, heki roof light, large roof light, tv aerial, awning, leisure battery, fresh/waste water tanks, cassette toilet, cd/radio, three way fridge, four hob oven, electric hookup with cables and adapters, over cab bed, shower, Truman gas heater, cold & hot water heated by electric or gas, outdoor compartment for gas bottles, swivel chair. No kids, no pets & non smokers.
A lovely motorhome in excellent condition.

I still have the motorhome available for sale if you still want to purchase it. I'm not interested in a part ex - I only want to sell my motorhome - sorry. This 2007 Elddis Autoquest 100 (4 berth) motorhome is in immaculate condition without any issues. I'm asking £5900 for a fast sale. The motorhome is currently located in Aberdeen because I just finished the divorce with my wife and I have moved here due to my work commitments. I will sell the motorhome only using eBay, this way you'll be able to inspect the motorhome before paying me and I'll be sure that I have a genuine buyer that isn't going to mess me around. Where are you located? Please email me as soon as you see this message because I have few other people interested in this motorhome.

Thank you,
Joe
by Mccullough9122 Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:22 pm
What can we do about these scamers??
by TerranceBoyce Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:41 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners Mccullough9122.

We do all we can but regrettably UK law enforcement and regulatory authorities are impotent. I'm also a member of 419eater.com and I bait the scammers to get details of the bank accounts they're using so that they can be shut down. Here we warn and advise victims/potential victims and I've spent half of today working with ''Buster Jack' who has a facebook page and blog in which he turns up and reports scam ebay pages. Today we must have found about scam 20 tractor adverts where scammers appear to have persuaded people to host them on their ebay sites. They switch between the types of vehicles they're offering to attempt to avoid detection.

Unfortunately it's laughably easy to set up bank accounts against fake ID and, as long as banking regulation in the UK is laughably weak and lax, there won't be a solution. In the past year two people were discovered to have set up just under 900 bank accounts between them for use in fraud. a fraudster can earn a good living just by setting up bank accounts which they can sell on to other fraudsters.

I'm currently in contact with the 'Mali Man' and I hope to step up the number I I can handle to a much greater level. All information on what they're using in current scams is useful.

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by TerranceBoyce Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:26 am
Bingo :D

Google Representative Account Name : PAYTOMA (Client Holding Account)
Google Representative Bank Name : Barclays
Google Representative Account Number : 40125717
Google Representative Sort Code : 20-20-37
Google Representative Bank City : London
Google Representative Bank Country : United Kingdom


This is a valuable one and I'll get it reported immediately.

The account is verified and tracks to Barclays Bank plc., Cheshunt which is a concern as they were always going to move out of Central London sooner or later.

Pay Toma - geddit ? :D Like the old Mr H M Revenue accounts. Do banks still fall for this old chestnut ?

I was knocking down camper van and tractor ads yesterday so, if you have the time and the will, you can make a difference. It may not be a big difference, but it's better than giving the scammers an open goal to commit crime.

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by mikeykeno Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:48 pm
Thank you for your post this saved us as well, we recieved a word for word exact email from brian cringhton
by tobytoby2 Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:31 pm
We answered an advert in Autotrader for caravan.Seller contacted us by E-mail stating he was on a military base in Isle of Man etc etc training for a mission in Mali !! \exactly the same worded e-mails as other posts have described. Fortunately we were extremely wary,due to the ridiculously low price of van and there was something not quite right about the wording of the e-mail.so we have not lost any money,thankfully.The name of seller was Brian Crighton. :!:
by GillyB Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:10 pm
Hi just thought I would let you know he is still at it with same story re military and off to Mali, I also googled military base in IOM and found this site so thanks for saving me from the scam.
For info he now is calling himself John Burridge [[email protected]] and is now selling on Auto trader again a 2005 CI CARIOCA 625 2.3 Turbo Diesel 5 Berth 32,000 Miles for 4,500! As my husband would say "if it looks too good to be true, it generally is to good to be true" The old cynic, I still live in hope the bargain will turn up and be genuine!
I still don't understand how Auto Trader allow him to continue, there must be some way of policing/preventing this scam.
by TerranceBoyce Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:31 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners GillyB.

The scammers infest all vehicle ad sites I'm sorry to say. I've even baited this one myself to discover what bank accounts he's using to launder stolen money. There's one major criminal gang operating a very large and relatively sophisticated fraud (he's part of it) and I've only seen recognition once by UK authorities of the existence of the fraud, but that only exposes how woefully ignorant they are about it as their estimate of the annual value is ludicrously low. This weekend I reported about 70 from one ad site alone and the scammer can make multiple sales from the one advert. On different parts of this forum we deal with the employment web sites trying to recruit money launderers and also fake sites posting details of non-existent construction and agricultural machinery, and such a large and complex set up can't be handled unless the gang is large and well organised.

I can pick up the fake car sales on one major ad site quite easily and I'll see how well I can do with camper vans.

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by blue eyes Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:35 pm
hi this is blue eyes I fell for the motorhome scam on November the 28th. the sellers name was john burridge he was advertising a fiat 2001 bessecarr e725 reg nx51sry I paid 3,350 and was asked to pay the money into google wallet and told it would be delivered on the 8th December and it never arrived. he used the account name paytimofte bank name Barclays account number 83338010 sort code 20-27-49 bank city London bank country united kingdom.hesaid he was in the army and the motorhome was with him and was kept in a garage it had no smoking in it and no pets and he needed the money he said he was in the isle of man and waiting to go to mali and he was a little nervous but exited. also on the same website motorhomes for sale.co.uk there is a woman going by the name off maragret holmes selling the same motorhome an e745 2 berth but if you check the photos on the web site it is the same motorhome and she has set an account up her excuse is she dosent want anyone calling at her home and she says she has lost her husband and she cant drive selling it for 3,995
by TerranceBoyce Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:11 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners blue eyes.

Considering that this is one of the largest organised frauds affecting UK consumers you might wonder why the UK authorities have done nothing to investigate it, particularly the criminals' ability to open large numbers of UK bank accounts for the sole purpose of laundering stolen funds. You only have to read these forums to get some idea of the number of victims, and I've spent most of today reporting fraudulent adverts on hacked dealer pages on major ad sites.

It used to be the case that major organised fraud received special attention, but for reasons that are inexplicable, this is a crime UK police are barely prepared to record, let alone investigate.

CAR ADVERTS - If a car seller mentions escrow - he's scamming you Never ever for any reason pay anything until you have seen and inspected the vehicle
by vonpaso xlura Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:42 pm
What fake Google Wallet website did the scammer tell you about? If it's still up, we want to kill it. Please post the email that mentions Google Wallet.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by blue eyes Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:06 pm
hi this is blue eyes the google wallet email address this so called john burridge sent me was as follows http://wallet.google.escorw.obeton.ru/u ... #how-works I hope this helps. may I also say I received a letter from the bank today fraud department saying they had closed his account and their was £20.01 in it and they asked if I would accept it as a final settlement on a goodwill basis and without any admission of liability by Barclays you can imagine my reply one thing I do know I wont be accepting this when I have lost £3,350.00
by vonpaso xlura Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:04 pm
Oh that one. It's dead already. Couldn't get through to Obeton (Russian concrete company) so the hoster zanked the whole Obeton site.

Sorry to hear of your loss. Have you contacted your MP? Boycey would know more about that; I'm an American.

... ni los estafadores heredarán el reino de Dios. 1 Cor. 6:10
by TerranceBoyce Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:28 am
Goodwill ? Barclays ? :shock:

I sense that Barclays may be waking up to the bad will this scandal is creating for them, and UK banks don't already have a spotless reputation.

Before I retired I spent my whole working life with a major UK bank. I even gave advice on a forum regarding "precipice bond" mis-selling but that's my nature, even though doing so was strictly 'verboten' by my employer.

Understandably any victim of this crime is predominantly concerned with recouping their stolen money and the wide eyed look of stupidity you get from a bank isn't helpful, when supposedly there is strict and stringent money laundering legislation in place to protect the UK and its citizens from harm. The wording of the law is such that any member of staff who withholds knowledge or even suspicion of money laundering is liable to prosecution and a prison sentence. The problem is that the FCA either hasn't read the legislation or, by policy, will never make use of the powers it has. This must change, and especially in the case of Barclays Bank who have an appalling reputation as the bank of choice for those laundering stolen funds. A simple Google search will confirm this.

I would recommend that you send a complaint to the FCA and state that you are taking the issue up with your MP and I would use the service below to point out the scandal that is affecting a massive number of UK consumers.

http://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-your-mp/

Everyone has the right to contact their local MP to discuss issues affecting them.


.. and you can do so through this service.

https://www.writetothem.com

Twice I have done so - once to get treatment for a serious medical condition and secondly to over rule the Parliamentary and Health Ombudsman.

This is not intended to get your money back, though it might help if you mention to Barclays that you're taking the matter up with your MP and the FCA. I think that banks fear no one except MP's and Parliament.

If enough victims take this action, you may find that banks make better offers, or perhaps even don't open bank accounts for money launderers in the first place.

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