[email protected] [email protected] autotrader

Hi, thanks you your site I was able to recognise the james email I have also received emails with similar hooks from an online car advert I placed

[email protected]
[email protected]

the latest from a clearly very generous [email protected] reads

Hi,
Thanks for the prompt response and please do consider me as the buyer. I am ready to buy it now as a birthday gift for my brother in-law and im ready to pay the asking price. Though, I am at the oil rig at the moment as I am a drilling engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone call making and visiting of website are restricted but I just have to squeezed out time to check this advert and decided to contact you regarding it. I really want the car to be a surprise package for my brother in-law so I won't let him know anything about the car until it gets delivered to him, I am sure he will be more than happy with the car. I insisted on PayPal as my mode of payment because I don't have access to my bank account online and also, I don't have internet banking, but I can pay from my PayPal account. I have my bank account attached to my PayPal account, so I will need you to get back to me with your PayPal email address and your final price so I can make the payment asap for the car. Also, in your response, please include your phone number again in case I misplace the one I have so I can send you a text as soon as the payment is sent via PayPal.
Nevertheless, if you don't have a PayPal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to http://www.paypal.co.uk and get it set up, after you have set it up I will only need the e-mail address you used for the registration with PayPal so as to put the money through. I have a pick up agent that will come and pick the car up after I have made the payments for the car.

My Regards.

update this is the further communication from

[email protected]

Hello,thanks for your response.But am sorry to tell you that i am not
going to be buying your car.
I originally set out to scam you,but my conscience wont let me,so i
changed my mind and decided to come out clean.I am so sorry for
this,But maybe if you hear my story
and my condition you will understand why i chose this path.
I happen to be the first child of a family of 6 kids,no father and a
jobless mother.I had to drop out of school to hustle so my younger
ones could feed and at least finish secondary school.My immediate younger
brother is about registering for his final exams in the secondary
school and there is no money to register him,as if that is not
enough,another of my siblings had an accident,she is bedridden in the
hospital now with a broken back bone,no money to pay for her hospital
bills,now she's at the verge
of been evicted from the hospital.Should i just stand as the eldest
child of the family and watch my younger ones die off and suffer?that
is how i got introduced to scam just last week.i can swear on my
life,i started this just last week,and since am not perfect in it,i
havent been convincing enough to extort money from anybody.
i know you might say why not pick up a legal job,well i would have
done that if there are jobs here,but even graduates are jobless
here,not to talk of someone with no certificate.
Dear,am not saying all this to pull pity from you,am only saying it to
tell you that am sorry for trying to scam you,but its cos i have no
other option.
Right now,i need roughly £10,000 to treat my poor sister in the
hospital plus a family to feed.
Once again,am sorry for trying to scam you,but if i could get help,if
you could help me too,with any amount,no matter how little,i
swear,i wont ever touch scam again and like that,you would be saving
some lives and also reducing the number of scams around.
I am sorry for the inconvenience once again,and please,find a place in
you heart to forgive me for trying to scam you,and please,for the sake
of God,please help me with any amount you can offer.Truly,you dont
know me and my situation and family is none of your business,but i am
just begging for help,you never can tell when you might need help
too.and i pray God will always raise help for you too in times of
trouble.
Thanks and God bless. I hope to hear from you.

Welcome to Scamwarners Jay762.

The second mail is interesting and it's a commonly observed tactic in other types of scam - the moral conversion deserving monetary reward. It doesn't matter what type of scam he performs, whatever he does makes him deserving of money. The interesting feature is that he's asking for more money than he could expect in his original scam but that's how his mind works.

It's all a pack of lies and one I've heard a hundred times over.

Next incarnation

from [email protected]

it is a fake webfront designed to get your logon

Thank you for getting back to me.
I'm looking at several cars at the moment, and I have lost track of which one yours is! Could you please let me know if this is your car http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... 400293654/

Thank you.

What you said is interesting Jay762, particularly as we are aware that one group of scammers has been managing to post on autotrader recently using the identities of various traders already operating on the site and it's difficult to see how they have been managing to do this.

This could be the answer.

it is a fake webfront designed to get your logon

However the link mentioned leads to a standard autotrader page and I doubt that a scammer would be able to upload the code to capture login details. If there's another link you have we'd be very interested to see it so that it can be reported and shut down. I'm sure that autotrader would also want to know how scammers are attacking the pages of their clients.

ahh maybe it didnt work for me - came up as a badly resolved log in page so I was very suspicious - thanks

here is the latest contact - this one from Mercy P, already listed on your great site but I thought I would include it so people are aware this email address is still being used

[email protected]

I suspect that the scammers have been getting access to dealers' pages on Autotrader the same way they phish for bank accounts, by sending spoofed messages with a link to a dummy log in page.

OK latest in this journey, now contacted from and email

Fontaine Baskerville <[email protected]>

same thing dodgy link included

http://tragetarevere.altervista.org/Aut ... n%20in.htm

It's already been suspended but I got a 'phishing site' warning before I got the site.

It seems most likely that the scammers got access to dealer pages by using a phishing message backed up with a fake login page. Presumably the original message was spoofed as coming from autotrader with a link to the phishing site. Something like a fake warning message about their adverts being hacked would do the trick.