by D0u6l2s
Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:06 pm
I was trying to sell a motorcycle on Craigslist. Within an hour I got a reply. First time I have ever sold anything on Craiglist, so I was unaware of scams. However, I am very suspicious of any transactions online. By the third email I figured it was a scam and called PayPal to ask about how transactions worked. They assured me they never required a customer to verify sending money via Western Union. With that knowledge I decided to have a little fun and waste some of this persons time like he had wasted mine. After my last email, I have not heard back from him since. Email trail below.
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On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Removed (BW) wrote:
The bike is in good condition.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Removed (BW) wrote:
I will take some more pictures of the motorcycle today when I get home from work. I will try to get you several different angles and close ups. My wife is actually the titled owner of the motorcycle. She just upgraded to a Harley Fatboy Lo, so that is the only reason she is selling this motorcycle. I can meet at the Safeway parking lot in Falcon, Colorado to pick up the bike or if you have a company that is going to pick it up for shipment they could come to my house in Falcon whichever is more convenient for them. My PayPal Email ID is [email protected]. We are asking $3,500 for the motorcycle. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks.
Doug
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM,Removed (BW)wrote:
I checked my PayPal account and there is no money in the account. Until there is money in the account, I will not be sending $900 via Western Union. I think we would be better off getting together in person and exchanging money for the motorcycle. Please let me know what would work for you and we can make arrangements on a place and time.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Removed (BW) wrote:
I have the email. There are no pending transactions in my PayPal account. I will give PayPal a call and find out if they can see the transaction using the Transaction ID and can deposit that in my account so I have the $900 to send via Western Union. I will not part with $900 of my money going to someone I don't know. As I said, I think it would work better if we meet in person and conduct the transaction that way.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Removed (BW) wrote:
Just got off the phone with PayPal and they cannot find the transaction # and do not see the transaction as pending in my account. I think at this point you are trying to scam me out of $900 or we need to do this transaction in person. PayPal has also requested that I send all correspondence to their investigative department so they can review it.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Removed (BW) wrote:
So you are saying that PayPal is going to keep your money if this transaction does not occur? I find it hard to believe that you cannot cancel this transaction. As I stated before, if you want this motorcycle you and I are going to need to meet in person and conduct this transaction. If you want to continue to conduct the transaction on PayPal, send me the $3,500 that we want for the bike and make separate arrangements to have the bike shipped to your location. I see no pending transaction in my PayPal account, PayPal can see no pending transaction, and I am definitely not sending you $900 of my money.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Removed (BW) wrote:
I have my PayPal account up right this minute and there is no money in the account and no pending transaction. You apparently have been scammed by PayPal. I am glad you have gotten the FBI involved to look into this. PayPal needs to be held accountable. As soon as you have talked to the FBI, please send me the agents name and contact information. I work for the federal government and spent 21 years active duty in the Air Force. I would be more than happy to sit down with them and explain your situation so you can get your money back. I will forward all of this information to the local FBI field office here to make sure they have everything and can start looking into it from my end.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:29 AM, craigslist reply 1d57
<[email protected]> wrote:
whats the condition reply to [email protected]
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On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Removed (BW) wrote:
The bike is in good condition.
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On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Richard Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for your mail.i will appreciate more pictures..I am ready to buy it now for my son as a surprise promise gift,And due to the nature of my work,phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but I squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I would be glad to pay for it as soon as possible though i will not be available to come for an inspection due to my tight schedule.Kindly get back to me with the following questions below:
1) Are you the Owner?
2) Pick up Location?
3) Your PayPal Email ID to effect the payment
4)what is The final Price
I would be glad to make the payment immediately through PayPal so kindly get back to me with your PayPal ID. You need not to worry yourself about title transfer and shipment,i will instruct the shipping company to handle that therefore in order to complete the transaction do get back to me with your PayPal ID and total cost so that I can make the payment asap. I will be waiting for your reply!
Thanks.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Removed (BW) wrote:
I will take some more pictures of the motorcycle today when I get home from work. I will try to get you several different angles and close ups. My wife is actually the titled owner of the motorcycle. She just upgraded to a Harley Fatboy Lo, so that is the only reason she is selling this motorcycle. I can meet at the Safeway parking lot in Falcon, Colorado to pick up the bike or if you have a company that is going to pick it up for shipment they could come to my house in Falcon whichever is more convenient for them. My PayPal Email ID is [email protected]. We are asking $3,500 for the motorcycle. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks.
Doug
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Richard Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
I have just made the payments now and i expect PayPal to have emailed you by now, i sent $4,500.00 USD in all to your PayPal ([email protected]),I added $900.00 USD meant for pick up fee commission and delivery and $100.00USD for the western union charges fee , they said they have emailed you to this effect, you will need to send the $900.00 USD to the pick up agent via western union money transfer,so that PayPal can credit $4,500.00 USD into your account as soon as you have emailed the western union details (Actual Amount Sent,10-Digits MTCN#,Sender name and Sender Address) to PayPal Customer Care, i added extra $100.00USD to cover the western union charges which shouldn't be more that $75-$85, Here is the pick up agent information needed to get the money sent through western union money transfer: You can also get the Western Union Done online via http://www.westernunion.com kindly check your mail inbox, spam and junk folders very well for the message from PayPal and the pick up agent. hope you get the agent name and address of where to send the pick up fee to below
PICK-UP AGENT INFORMATION BELOW:
Name: Garner J. Frank
Address: 630 North Access Road,
City: Chicago
State: Illinois
Zipcode: 60666
Country: U.S.A..
I will need the details of the transfer once you have sent fund . . .
1.The MTCN number that is the 10 digits number on the Western Union receipt
2.Sender name and sender address used in sending the money
3.Pick Up Location address and phone number.
4.Western Union Customer Receipt
Thanks.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM,Removed (BW)wrote:
I checked my PayPal account and there is no money in the account. Until there is money in the account, I will not be sending $900 via Western Union. I think we would be better off getting together in person and exchanging money for the motorcycle. Please let me know what would work for you and we can make arrangements on a place and time.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Richard Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
Kindly check your inbox,Junk/Spam Mail properly for the PayPal Payment confirmation you will not receive the payment now cos its Pending by PayPal so as to verify that youare a Legitimate seller of the purchased item...so they are temporarily holding the money until the MTCN details has been sent to them as regards the payment... this is to secure us both......PayPal is Holding the money and waiting on you tosend the MTCN information to them so that they can verify it and confirm that you have truly sent the money before the accreditation can take place...so i implore you send the money through western union and get back to them so that they can credit your account ASAP.....so kindly get that done now and get back to me asap
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Removed (BW) wrote:
I have the email. There are no pending transactions in my PayPal account. I will give PayPal a call and find out if they can see the transaction using the Transaction ID and can deposit that in my account so I have the $900 to send via Western Union. I will not part with $900 of my money going to someone I don't know. As I said, I think it would work better if we meet in person and conduct the transaction that way.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Richard Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
I really count on this sale and PayPal will only credit your account with the full funds after you send the pick up agent fess due to safety measure, kindly get the money borrowed or get a loan with the title and so you can send the money to the agent and email them that the money has been sent to the agent, you will refund back the money as soon as they verify that you have send the money and the pick up will be arranged, kindly get this done so we can seal the deal.
Thanks and God bless you.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Removed (BW) wrote:
Just got off the phone with PayPal and they cannot find the transaction # and do not see the transaction as pending in my account. I think at this point you are trying to scam me out of $900 or we need to do this transaction in person. PayPal has also requested that I send all correspondence to their investigative department so they can review it.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Richard Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
What do you mean?. I have already had your money sent and the said funds have been deducted from my account. Paypal will not release the hold on the funds in your account until you get back to them with the details of the western union for the excess funds. I do not have access to the funds any longer and paypal has all authority over the funds...I should be the one to
worry about the safety of this transaction because, I am out of my money and yet to see the Item paid for. Proceed to the western union and have the excess funds sent to the shippers information and I will like to remind you that no one can access or receive the money you sent via western union without having access to the receipt that will be given to you when you have the money sent. I will also notify paypal via email of this development for record purpose.
Regard
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Removed (BW) wrote:
So you are saying that PayPal is going to keep your money if this transaction does not occur? I find it hard to believe that you cannot cancel this transaction. As I stated before, if you want this motorcycle you and I are going to need to meet in person and conduct this transaction. If you want to continue to conduct the transaction on PayPal, send me the $3,500 that we want for the bike and make separate arrangements to have the bike shipped to your location. I see no pending transaction in my PayPal account, PayPal can see no pending transaction, and I am definitely not sending you $900 of my money.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Richard Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
I just wanted to let you know I am totally disappointed with your attitude,the payment has been made. I want you to confirm that you've indeed received the payment confirmation. I wonder why you have decided to stop writing me ever since you have gotten the payment confirmation. I explained earlier to you about the problem i had with the pick up agent. I hope you do not intend to steal from me......i want you to know that FBI Has involve in this transaction..Kindly look for $900.00 USD and get the $900.00 USD sent via western union money transfer to the Pick-Up Agent information before 2hours so that FBI and PAYPAL can stop the Legal action as soon as they receive and verify the western union details from you....PayPal can't refund back my money since i have confirm the money...My account was debited immediately i made the payment so complete this transaction so that FBI will stop the LEGAL ACTION.
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Removed (BW) wrote:
I have my PayPal account up right this minute and there is no money in the account and no pending transaction. You apparently have been scammed by PayPal. I am glad you have gotten the FBI involved to look into this. PayPal needs to be held accountable. As soon as you have talked to the FBI, please send me the agents name and contact information. I work for the federal government and spent 21 years active duty in the Air Force. I would be more than happy to sit down with them and explain your situation so you can get your money back. I will forward all of this information to the local FBI field office here to make sure they have everything and can start looking into it from my end.
Last edited by Bryon Williams on Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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