by Robfenix
Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:42 am
Reporting scam operation. I didn't go through with the transaction, but this may help other know what to look for.
Email: [email protected]
Name: "Louis Ginger"
Address of company/organisation/other persons involved:
81 Kingswood Rd
SW2 4JN
London, United Kingdom
Other business names involved: Freight Co. (www.freight-co.x10.bz) and Dapson International Shipping & Marketing Co (business listed at address where money was supposed to be sent) number 020 86741998. When I called Dapson, I got a short message machine with a Pakistani/Indian sounding voice, which was difficult to understand with ok, but not great English. This would match the previous e-mails and Freight Co. writings which are in good English, but not quite perfect.
So this has all the marks of a blatant scam. Highly desired product way under market price, won't meet in person, wants Western Union transfer and is pushy about it, cannot identify person or business independently via website or other means, uses unknown escrow service with .bz url.
So I saw an ad on craigslist Amsterdam with the title: "NEW MacBook Pro 15" Glossy 2.8 GHz i7 1TB 8GB - EUR500". This is a €2300 machine so I was suspicious from the beginning.
I had never been scammed before, and indeed, I have had very good online purchasing experiences even when I was a bit un-trusting at first. But all the signs came, and the more I looked around, the worse it got.
First, he said he was not in Amsterdam afterall (which is the Craigslist city he posted in), but in London. He used only the first name of "Louis" in his e-mail. I said I had to ask how he came about such a nice laptop and was willing to sell it. He said he had been doing wholesale of computers for awhile. However, when asked for more info on his business (website, amazon seller id, etc.), he said he could not provide any.
He was very pushy to have the deal go through. As soon as I sent him my name and shipping address, I had an e-mail from "Louis" requesting Western Union transfer and also a confirmation e-mail from the escrow service "Freight Co. Services" (http://freight-co.x10.bz/). Freight Co had a decent website. However, the .bz ending should tip one off. It is a url for Belize, but it is commonly mistaken for simply a business address, and I think that at one time there was an attempt to make it the new business ending.
Below is full correspondence with both the scammer and his Escrow service "Freight Co.":
____________________________________________________________________________________
Freight Co
We have a package in our custody on your name and address.
The package contents have been verified by our technical team for the purpose of content certification. The package contents is certified by Freight Co.
Complete your Freight Co. transaction in 3 easy steps:
1) The merchandise will remain in our custody until the buyer send the payment.
2) Once the funds are verified, the merchandise will be delivered to the buyer.
3) Buyer receives the merchandise and has five days to inspect it.
- If the buyer will not be satisfied with the merchandise, Freight Co. will send the merchandise back to the seller and a full refund is immediately sent to the buyer.
- If the buyer accepts the merchandise, the transaction is complete.
Transaction details:
Service: Freight Co. 2nd Day Air
Shipment status: In custody
Package 1 of 1: Packaged and inspected by our technical team
Contents: NEW MacBook Pro 15" Glossy 2.8 GHz i7 1TB 8GB
Including: Accessories, Receipt, Warranty.
Authenticity: Genuine
Condition: New
Tracking Number: 2112142
You can track your shipment on our website: www.freight-co.x10.bz
Return policy: 5 days after the buyer receives it
Refund will be given as: Money Back
Amount: EUR 500,00
Shipping: EUR 0,00 (The shipping fee was paid by the seller)
Total: EUR 500,00
Buyer's delivery address:
Name: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Address: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
City: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Country: Netherlands
Zip: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Seller's verified payment address:
Name: Louis Ginger
Address: 81 Kingswood Rd
City: London
Country: United Kingdom
Zip: SW2 4JN
Payment instructions:
Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment.
Payment Method: Western Union Money Transfer
*** NOTE *** The merchandise is located in our custody.
Once the payment is verified, you will receive the merchandise within 2 days.
You have to pay with cash at any Western Union Agent Location.
Go to one of them and send the money using the above seller's details.
Once the payment was sent, provide the seller the following information:
1) Money Transfer Control Number (MTCN):
2) Exact sender's name and address:
3) Amount sent:
Note: The seller was informed about this transaction being started and is awaiting your e-mail.
Thank you for using Freight Co !
Here are the e-mail exchanges: Hello,
I'm still waiting your response.
Let me know if the payment was sent.
Thanks
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Louis <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
The shipment is arranged. The tracking number is 2112142
Please check carefully all folders of your email address (inbox, junk, bulk, etc...)
The confirmation from Freight Co should be in your email by now. There you'll find all info you need.
Now you have to send the payment.
Western Union is designed mainly for sending cash to friends and relatives for personal purposes. It's fast and very easy.
So, as a friendly advice, when you send the money through Western Union, to avoid paying a very high additional fee (about 150 euros), don't tell them that the money is for a business transaction.
Just tell them that you send the money to a friend of yours for personal purposes.
Please let me know when the money transfer is done and send me the details.
Thanks
_____________________________________
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
XXXX
XXXX
XXXX, NL
___________________________-
--- On Mon, 1/10/11, Louis <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Louis <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NEW MacBook Pro 15" Glossy 2.8 GHz i7 1TB 8GB - EUR500
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 12:05 AM
Hello,
I'm sorry but I don't have a website.
First, I'll arrange the shipment.
So, If you're ready for this purchase, just let me know your full name and delivery address so that I can arrange the shipment.
Thanks
________
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:58 PM, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
Dear Louis,
Still interested.
Price is fine.
Do you have website / address / ebay seller ID / other info for the business?
We'll talk more tomorrow. I'm going to bed for now.
--XXXX
______________________________________
--- On Sun, 1/9/11, Louis <t> wrote:
From: Louis <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NEW MacBook Pro 15" Glossy 2.8 GHz i7 1TB 8GB - EUR500
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 10:23 PM
Hello,
Still available. BRAND NEW with receipt and warranty.
The price is not negotiable.
But I'm willing to pay for all shipping and insurance fees because I'm in London.
I have my own wholesale company here and I sold a lot of products all over the world.
Just let me know your full name and delivery address then I'll send it to your address (2 days delivery) and you'll pay with cash.
Thanks
________
Dear Seller,
I have been looking to buy a Macbook. These are good specs and price for me, especially since I have been going back and forth on getting one based on the retail prices.
I must ask though, what are the circumstances that led to you needing to sell a new Macbook?
XXXX
XXXX, Netherlands
Email: [email protected]
Name: "Louis Ginger"
Address of company/organisation/other persons involved:
81 Kingswood Rd
SW2 4JN
London, United Kingdom
Other business names involved: Freight Co. (www.freight-co.x10.bz) and Dapson International Shipping & Marketing Co (business listed at address where money was supposed to be sent) number 020 86741998. When I called Dapson, I got a short message machine with a Pakistani/Indian sounding voice, which was difficult to understand with ok, but not great English. This would match the previous e-mails and Freight Co. writings which are in good English, but not quite perfect.
So this has all the marks of a blatant scam. Highly desired product way under market price, won't meet in person, wants Western Union transfer and is pushy about it, cannot identify person or business independently via website or other means, uses unknown escrow service with .bz url.
So I saw an ad on craigslist Amsterdam with the title: "NEW MacBook Pro 15" Glossy 2.8 GHz i7 1TB 8GB - EUR500". This is a €2300 machine so I was suspicious from the beginning.
I had never been scammed before, and indeed, I have had very good online purchasing experiences even when I was a bit un-trusting at first. But all the signs came, and the more I looked around, the worse it got.
First, he said he was not in Amsterdam afterall (which is the Craigslist city he posted in), but in London. He used only the first name of "Louis" in his e-mail. I said I had to ask how he came about such a nice laptop and was willing to sell it. He said he had been doing wholesale of computers for awhile. However, when asked for more info on his business (website, amazon seller id, etc.), he said he could not provide any.
He was very pushy to have the deal go through. As soon as I sent him my name and shipping address, I had an e-mail from "Louis" requesting Western Union transfer and also a confirmation e-mail from the escrow service "Freight Co. Services" (http://freight-co.x10.bz/). Freight Co had a decent website. However, the .bz ending should tip one off. It is a url for Belize, but it is commonly mistaken for simply a business address, and I think that at one time there was an attempt to make it the new business ending.
Below is full correspondence with both the scammer and his Escrow service "Freight Co.":
____________________________________________________________________________________
Freight Co
We have a package in our custody on your name and address.
The package contents have been verified by our technical team for the purpose of content certification. The package contents is certified by Freight Co.
Complete your Freight Co. transaction in 3 easy steps:
1) The merchandise will remain in our custody until the buyer send the payment.
2) Once the funds are verified, the merchandise will be delivered to the buyer.
3) Buyer receives the merchandise and has five days to inspect it.
- If the buyer will not be satisfied with the merchandise, Freight Co. will send the merchandise back to the seller and a full refund is immediately sent to the buyer.
- If the buyer accepts the merchandise, the transaction is complete.
Transaction details:
Service: Freight Co. 2nd Day Air
Shipment status: In custody
Package 1 of 1: Packaged and inspected by our technical team
Contents: NEW MacBook Pro 15" Glossy 2.8 GHz i7 1TB 8GB
Including: Accessories, Receipt, Warranty.
Authenticity: Genuine
Condition: New
Tracking Number: 2112142
You can track your shipment on our website: www.freight-co.x10.bz
Return policy: 5 days after the buyer receives it
Refund will be given as: Money Back
Amount: EUR 500,00
Shipping: EUR 0,00 (The shipping fee was paid by the seller)
Total: EUR 500,00
Buyer's delivery address:
Name: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Address: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
City: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Country: Netherlands
Zip: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Seller's verified payment address:
Name: Louis Ginger
Address: 81 Kingswood Rd
City: London
Country: United Kingdom
Zip: SW2 4JN
Payment instructions:
Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment.
Payment Method: Western Union Money Transfer
*** NOTE *** The merchandise is located in our custody.
Once the payment is verified, you will receive the merchandise within 2 days.
You have to pay with cash at any Western Union Agent Location.
Go to one of them and send the money using the above seller's details.
Once the payment was sent, provide the seller the following information:
1) Money Transfer Control Number (MTCN):
2) Exact sender's name and address:
3) Amount sent:
Note: The seller was informed about this transaction being started and is awaiting your e-mail.
Thank you for using Freight Co !
Here are the e-mail exchanges: Hello,
I'm still waiting your response.
Let me know if the payment was sent.
Thanks
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Louis <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
The shipment is arranged. The tracking number is 2112142
Please check carefully all folders of your email address (inbox, junk, bulk, etc...)
The confirmation from Freight Co should be in your email by now. There you'll find all info you need.
Now you have to send the payment.
Western Union is designed mainly for sending cash to friends and relatives for personal purposes. It's fast and very easy.
So, as a friendly advice, when you send the money through Western Union, to avoid paying a very high additional fee (about 150 euros), don't tell them that the money is for a business transaction.
Just tell them that you send the money to a friend of yours for personal purposes.
Please let me know when the money transfer is done and send me the details.
Thanks
_____________________________________
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
XXXX
XXXX
XXXX, NL
___________________________-
--- On Mon, 1/10/11, Louis <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Louis <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NEW MacBook Pro 15" Glossy 2.8 GHz i7 1TB 8GB - EUR500
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 12:05 AM
Hello,
I'm sorry but I don't have a website.
First, I'll arrange the shipment.
So, If you're ready for this purchase, just let me know your full name and delivery address so that I can arrange the shipment.
Thanks
________
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:58 PM, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote:
Dear Louis,
Still interested.
Price is fine.
Do you have website / address / ebay seller ID / other info for the business?
We'll talk more tomorrow. I'm going to bed for now.
--XXXX
______________________________________
--- On Sun, 1/9/11, Louis <t> wrote:
From: Louis <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: NEW MacBook Pro 15" Glossy 2.8 GHz i7 1TB 8GB - EUR500
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 10:23 PM
Hello,
Still available. BRAND NEW with receipt and warranty.
The price is not negotiable.
But I'm willing to pay for all shipping and insurance fees because I'm in London.
I have my own wholesale company here and I sold a lot of products all over the world.
Just let me know your full name and delivery address then I'll send it to your address (2 days delivery) and you'll pay with cash.
Thanks
________
Dear Seller,
I have been looking to buy a Macbook. These are good specs and price for me, especially since I have been going back and forth on getting one based on the retail prices.
I must ask though, what are the circumstances that led to you needing to sell a new Macbook?
XXXX
XXXX, Netherlands