Craigslist, Ebay and other online buying/selling scams.
by Koucho Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:19 pm
Hello. I don't have a lot of details on this scammer but I thought it was worth it to post the verbatim and scam employed. Also, this guy contacted me via text message on my phone number (provided in my ad) so no e-mail and no name. Just a phone number: +1-240-406-9721.

Scammer:
do you still have it available for sale?

Me:
Yes of course. Would you like to come see it? Would tomorrow work for you?

Scammer:
Thanks so much for getting back to me and i am glad to read from you,Well i will like to let you know that i am seriously interested in this transaction and i want this transaction to be safe for both of us so am willing to pay you via PayPal which i think is safe and fast.I will also like to let you know that i will arrange for the pick up my self and there is no need for you to ship. I think that should be preferable to you. All you have to do now is get back to me with the pick up location so that i can forward it to the shipping company coming for the pick and your PayPal email address for the payment.

*As of that moment, I was already getting suspicious. The scammer was too much in a rush talking about shipping without having asked even a question about my bass amp, didn't answer my questions, he kept referring to a transaction and never to what I had actually advertised and then the length and complexity of his first real message (four hours later by the way) tipped me off. Then I asked the scammer a question to see if he would be thrown off balance and if the verbatim would change or remain the same. I was also looking to see if his answer would be coherent.*

Me:
Don't you have any questions regarding the bass amp? I mean this is a huge item to ship and a rather big sum to spend from far away... (I had done a search for his phone number overt the internet. Turned out to be from Beltsville, Maryland which made me even more cautious as I live in Quebec, Canada).

*Notice how the scammer didn't have any verbatim ready and suddenly seemed to have lost all writing skills.*

Scammer:
I have go through the add and am okay with it and you need not to worry about the sum once i really love so the sum mean nothing

*Being 75% certain I was being scammed, I did a google search for "kijiji paypal scam" to see if it was a "thing" and fell upon this thread, thankfully! Now 100% certain of it, I then cut off communication with the scammer and told him this transaction would not occur.*

Me:

I do not feel safe selling my item to someone I can't see face to face. I also should like cold hard cash in my hands as a security. I have to inform you that we will not be making this "transaction". Goodbye, scammer.

Thought I should share this and my thought process with you guys in case this helps anyone as it has helped me a lot. :D
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by Mike Wilson Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:22 am
Hello Koucho,

Thank you for posting the information on this scammer. The following emails from the fake PayPal shows how the scam works. The scammers were also kind enough to give me his email address and name that he is using.



The following emails were spoofed to appear to have originated with PayPal when in reality the email originated from [email protected]

***Payment Processing on Hold***

David Elliot
[email protected]

Dear

We would like to inform you that the transaction of $5,275.00 USD between you and David Elliot ([email protected]) is under processing. You will not have access to the funds until you send the pick up cost $675.00 USD to the shipping company via Western Union Money Transfer and get back to us with the details for your account verification for fund to be available in your account.





.......Payment Processing on Hold.....




Copyright © 1999-2016 PayPal. All rights reserved.

PayPal Email ID PP1557



Second email from the fake PayPal
***Message from PayPal***
Dear

My name is Mellisa. I'm a PayPal international representative in charge of your transaction with David Elliot
Kindly reply to this message if you have any question regarding this transaction and I will be happy to help you.

We thank you for being an asset to PayPal and we hope to serve you better in the nearest future.

Sincerely,

Thank you for using PayPal!

The PayPal Team.

Get back to us at our customer care service for any [email protected]



Third email from the fake PayPal account

****Explanation About The Transfer And How To Confirm Payment.****

Dear

My name is Mellisa and i have been told to explain to you about the transaction and what to do to have it sealed and how to confirm this transaction .Our phone service is presently automated and we would advice you to only send us an email to take you through the step to have the transaction completed.You are to go to your nearest western union outlet or any nearest walmart store. You can also visit www.westernunion.com to send the sum of $675.00 USD to the agent address from your pocket to the agent address and get back to us with the western union details for us to verify and have your account credited immediately .We would advice this to be done soon for your account accreditation process to begin.

Note: The money will not reflect in your account until you get back to us with the western union Details Of the Transaction Also the money can not be refund back to the buyer because it as been post pending until we receive the MTCN number from You.





Fourth email

***Safety Measures to Protect Both Buyer and Seller ***Get Back To Us With The Western Union Information For Verification Of Your Account***


Safety Measures to Protect Both Buyer and Seller.

Dear ,

We have received an order from one of our customers (David Elliot) she made the payment of $5,275.00 USD to your PayPal account. The payment has been made successfully and the money has not been credited into your account. We are waiting for you to send the $675.00 USD to the pick up agent through Western Union Money Transfer before we can release the money into your account and this is due to the large increase in the rate of the online scams recorded last year (2015). We have changed some of our rules and policy to make sure our clients (Seller and Buyer) are safe from scam, PayPal in conjunction with the FBI has invented certain preventive measure to ensure the safety of both our sellers and buyers in any transaction made through PayPal.



1. Once a payment is made, a confirmation Email will be sent to the seller that the payment has been made to state the transaction details which has been sent to you. Also a confirmation is sent to the buyer that the money has been deducted from his or her account. So once you get this mail, you should send the money to the shipper immediately to the address that was given to you by PayPal and send the Western Union Information to Us. Once the Western Union Information gets to us, the seller's account will be credited instantly. But on no condition should the Western Union Information be given to the buyer unless the seller's account is credited and likewise will the seller's account be credited until we get the Western Union Information.

2. Once a payment is made and it has been approved by PayPal, such transaction is Sealed (because both seller and buyer must have come to a conclusion before payment is made by the buyer) so therefore neither the buyer or seller can cancel this transaction or ask for the return to the buyer's account. Also, this is where we generate our income, because the more transaction made through PayPal, the more we generate our Income.

3. Failure to abide by these laid down safety measures by PayPal may lead to suspension from PayPal and further more invitation to an interrogation with the F.B.I
So can you see w***Safety Measures to Protect Both Buyer and Seller ***Get Back To Us With The Western Union Information For Verification Of Your Account***e are very considerate about the safety of both buyer and seller.
**PLEASE NOTE**
This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED"but will not be credited to your account until you send the Western Union Information to us or email us through our mail [email protected] and our customer care service will attend to you. As soon as you send us the Western Union Information for security purposes and the safety of the buyer and the seller, the money will be credited into your account. Also our client has made a report he/she will not respond to your stimulation .

It is ALWAYS a scam
If the pet seller or shipper asks for money to be sent via Western Union, Money Gram, any brand of gift card. Walmart To Walmart , Zelle , PayPal friends and family option, or mentions Cameroon
by Mike Wilson Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:29 pm
I now have proof this scam is operating out of Nigeria, Africa.

It is ALWAYS a scam
If the pet seller or shipper asks for money to be sent via Western Union, Money Gram, any brand of gift card. Walmart To Walmart , Zelle , PayPal friends and family option, or mentions Cameroon

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