Craigslist, Ebay and other online buying/selling scams.
by isusi Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:06 am
Hi evrybody, I'm Xxxxxxxx I found this forum checking for some scam, after a sospicious payment by BNP paribas.
Here the story!

I wanted to sell my Nikon on an Italian website (subito.it) is like kijiji but without the paypal option.
I found this english guy who wants to buy the camera as a gift, I told him about the shipment and I said it will be ok and ask for the bank's data.
After this I received an email by BNP PARIBAS saying:

<<TRANSFER ORDER
The Online Transfer Order From BNP PARIBAS® Has Been Approved.
TRANSACTION ID:
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*PAYMENT APPROVED* PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.
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REF. Number: BNP3100571632PAS
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Dear Xxxxxxxxxx ****

This email confirms that you have an instant payment made online via BNP Paribas® online banking. The transfer was made by "Arjan *******" in which the fund amount of € 784,00 EUR has been approved and confirmed to your account below.

Reversals : This method of payment can not be reversed.

Summary of this transaction

Sent From Arjan ******


Sent to
Xxxxxxxxx XXXXXXXXXX
Transaction ID BNP3100571632PAS
Item Amount € 700,00 EUR
Postage and Packing
Insurance
Total Amount
Item Title
Quantity € 84,00 EUR
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€ 784,00 EUR
Nikon d 7000 - Purchased
1 Piece(s)
The money have been transferred to the following Account details below.
Account Name Xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Bank Name Xxxxxxxxxxx*****************
IBAN IT*****************************************
BIC/Swift Code ***************
Amount Transferred € 784,00 EUR
Country Italy

NOTE: Ensure that you provide the correct Bank details to avoid failure in payment remittance of your merchandise Payment and the payment reference# (BNP3100571632PAS) Contact us immediately if there is any error in the Bank Details Provided.
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***ATTENTION***

The order has been APPROVED, you can now ship the merchandise to the buyer's shipping address. You are expected to make the shipment within 24 hours of receiving this Payment Approval Notification and get back with the shipment receipt to your buyer.

***PLEASE NOTE***

The REF. Number allow you to verify your payment with us, in order to protect both sender and receiver interests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent activities.

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Once shipment has been verified, You will receive a " CONFIRMATION EMAIL " which says your money had being released and has also be confirmed to your account.
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Do not hesitate to contact us through the same e-mail, and also make sure you read the mail carefully in order for the completion of the transaction between you the Payee.

Thank you for using BNP Paribas Secure Payment. We look forward to serving your online payment needs better in the future.
BNP Paribas.
Online Wire Transfer
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TRANSACTION ID: BNP3100571632PAS
Sincerely.
BNP PARIBAS® Management.
Executive Vice President
[email protected]
Copyright ©BNP Paribas 2015. All rights reserved.>>

Then a second email:



<<Welcome to BNP Paribas® Online Payment For All Seller Worldwide.
Your Account Will Be Credited Within 24Hours - 48Hours After Shipment Scanned Receipt Is Received.

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*FUNDS ON TEMPORARY HOLD* PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.
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REF. Number: BNP3100571632PAS
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Dear Xxxxxxxxxxxx

This is an important message concerning the transfer of € 784,00 from "Arjan Widlak" as payment for the purchase of your Merchandise. We want to inform you that the funds of the transfer has been temporarily put on hold.
We've placed a temporary hold on the funds of this transaction into your Bank Account

The funds has been deducted from the buyers account and he does have any access to the funds of the transaction again directly or indirectly because the transfer is irreversible. Due to the new bank policy that protect both the buyer and seller we cannot credit your account until we receive a proof that you have shipped the item. The Funds of the transaction are now temporarily on hold in our database and will be credited to your account as soon as the shipment reference/tracking number is sent to us for shipment verification so as to secure both the buyer and the seller.

The Transferred Sum has included the MERCHANDISE Amount and the TAX CHARGES for International Transfer quoted for the buyer (BANK MERCHANDISE PAYMENT POLICY). You will go ahead with the shipping of the MERCHANDISE to the Buyer's Address with any international Courier Service. Get back to us with the shipment reference/tracking number for verification.Your account will be credited as soon as we verify that you have shipped the Merchandise.

NOTE: This is important as a security measure to ensure safety of this transaction.

HERE IS THE BUYER'S ADDRESS AS CONFIRMED BY BNP PARIBAS®
Name: Scott ******
Address: ***********************
City: Romford
State: Essex
Zip Code: *********
Country: United Kingdom


Address Status: Confirmed

NOTE: Your Account will be credited accordingly upon the Scanned receipt of the post. Should either be sent in JPG format or send type details as.

After the Merchandise is shipped, email us reference/tracking number via [email protected]
You may contact BNP Paribas customer service by replying directly to this email by using the reply button in your e-Mail Box and Quote the Above Transaction ID for quick recognition of this transaction.

Sincerely,
BNP Paribas.

Online Wire Transfer
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TRANSACTION ID: BNP3100571632PAS

Sincerely.
BNP PARIBAS® Management.


Executive Vice President
[email protected]>>


I suspect a scam I never see this kind of email, that hold money and something like that.
Hope somebody can help me!
Thanks
Xxxxxxxxx
Last edited by Bryon Williams on Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:53 pm, edited 1 time in total. Reason: Removed personal information.
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by AlanJones Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:15 am
Hi isusi, welcome to Scamwarners.

It is definitely a scam - no banks operate Escrow services like the one they are describing here. If someone sends you money by bank transfer then the money will appear in your account in a few days. The bank has no involvement in what ever business is being contracted between you and the sender and will never hold on to money pending you confirming shipment )or you sending an overpayment elsewhere).

Please can you post all the email addresses that the scammer is using.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by isusi Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:19 am
This is the email he used to contact me: [email protected]
When I received this email, I was like sospicious because all the payments arrive directly to the bank, and this strange "founds temporary hold" and the most sospicious the email.
[email protected]

Thanks for answer so fast!
I was going to the bank to let them see this strange mail or maybe later to the postal police dep :)
by isusi Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:34 am
what I've to do with him?
Reply that he's just a scammer, or just leave him in spam?
by AlanJones Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:38 am
Just delete the emails and don't respond to him. If you accuse him of being a scammer, he will just deny it and continue trying to scam you.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by isusi Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:41 am
Perfect! I think I'll go to the postal police dep, just in case I hope nobody will fall in this scam.
Thanks for the help!
by isusi Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:06 am
Hi again!
Yesterday I also went to my bank, and they told me they never seen this kind of payment and not sending anything till the money is at the count.
Today starts early and Mr scam, contact me asking for the shipment
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arjan Widlak

09:58 (8 minuti fa)
Hello,
What is going on with the shipment and transfer? I'm still waiting for your reply.

and before this:
______________________________
Arjan Widlak

00:37 (9 ore fa)
Hello, What is going on with the transfer now? The bank are still waiting for the shipment proof so that they can credit your account..
by AlanJones Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:35 am
I told you to ignore any further emails from the scammer. He will keep writing until he finaly decides you won't be paying. Just delete the mails without opening them.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
by isusi Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:00 am
Yep that's what I'm doing, reading and erase ;)

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