Craigslist, Ebay and other online buying/selling scams.
by TerranceBoyce Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:29 am
A big warm welcome to Scamwarners supersnake and I'm delighted to hear that you avoided being scammed and reported the account.

It should be shut down immediately as this scammer's running a professional ring of Romanian 'money mules' and the quicker they're shut down the better. Though I don't care about the nationality of the 'mule', it does point to some degree of organisation. I'm not overly sympathetic to Anglo Saxon 'mules' either, but anything pointing to organisation should prompt a firm reaction. Once word gets round as to what will happen to those involved, the practice will dramatically reduce.

A bank can shut anyone's account any time for any reason and they aren't obliged to give a reason, and once that happens the person won't get an account anywhere else. Trying to get a job, receive benefits, pay bills or anything then becomes extremely difficult, if not impossible, but that's the risk 'mules' take.

The fact is that even an 'innocent' money mule will cost a bank thousands of pounds just to clear up the security breaches they've created and, having given away their identity, they'll be a lifelong financial security risk. Also the bank owns the account, the customer only owns the money in it, so by allowing a scammer to use it the customer has breached the bank's security. Staff would be dismissed immediately for doing that. Customers should expect no less.

You're correct to state that the address in Scotland and English name are just made up. The sorting code indicates that the 'mule' is based in Edgware London.

It's very rare that an account is reported before anyone loses money and it won't take many examples of what happens, for scammers and their 'mules' to get the message. That account has now been 'euthanased' and, unless the bank are prepared to reimburse any future victims, they have no alternative but to close it. It may not be the only one either.

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by supersnake Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:54 am
This looks very convincing, too easy to get scammed!!!


Your invoice for eBay purchases - AUDI Q7 3.0 TDI QUATTRO SE S-LINE 2006


Invoice for Transaction Case ID 154D4K78 between Evelyn Hudson, as the Seller andPaul Harvey, as the Buyer. Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely.



Seller:

Name: Evelyn Hudson
Address: 21 Stirling Street
Dundee
DD3 6PH
United Kingdom



Buyer:

Name: Mr no Name
No name rd
no city
United Kingdom



Transaction Details:


http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/151054085630.jpg Case ID: 154D4K78
Date: 10.06.2013
Status: Payment Pending

Item titled: AUDI Q7 3.0 TDI QUATTRO SE S-LINE 2006
Buy It Now Price £5,300.00
Quantity Sold: 1
Insurance: YES
Delivery: Delivery details will be provided by seller after payment.

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Delivery details*: As above

*Please check the details for an accurate delivery in order to avoid delays.



Payment must be submitted via Bank Transfer to the eBay Financing Center Agent Bank account in charge of this transaction. The payment will be secured until the Buyer receives, inspects and accepts the vehicle. Or, if it will be the case a full refund is given to the Buyer.

eBay Financing Center Agent*:

Beneficiary: Tudor Stoia

Bank Name: Barclays

Account no: 63780864
Sort Code: 20-29-41

City: London
Country:
United Kingdom



*Bacs, CHAPS and Faster Payments are accepted.


Payment:

Invoice #154D4K78


Subtotal: £5,300.00

Shipping(Free): £0.00


Deposit: £0.00

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Total: £5,300.00



How to make the payment

Send the payment using eBay Financing Center Agent's bank account (found below) as payment details .
E-mail us*

the following payment information:

- Case ID or Invoice #
- Copy of the bank receipt

Fax* the Bank transfer payment receipt to eBay Financing Center Department at:


+44 (0)207 681 2177
*We strongly recommend that you confirm the payment by both e-mail and fax.




Important Notice

For security reasons please DO NOT release the payment details to the Seller or any other unauthorized person.





All the transaction, payment and personal information is considered confidential and will not be released under any circumstances.
Buyer Protection program security measures are constantly reviewed and modified given evolving circumstances globally.
Our main and constant priority is the safety of our customers.



Bank Wire transfers can be submitted with the help of your banking institution. To send a wire transfer, you need to have the following information:

- Beneficiary (person to whom the wire is being sent)
- The receiving bank's Sort Code and name of the bank
- Account number of beneficiary
- Location of the receiving bank.


When payment is received, it will be verified and secured into a non-interest bearing trust account. Payment verification process usually takes less than 24 hours. After payment is secured, the Seller is authorized to deliver the vehicle.The Seller has 3 business days to send the Buyer and eBay Customer Support the tracking number of the delivery. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is immediately sent to the Buyer.
The Buyer receives the vehicle and has 5 business days to inspect it. If it is complete and as described, the Buyer should accept the vehicle. If he refuses the vehicle delivery is reversed at no additional cost and full refund is given to the Buyer.
After the inspection period is over, the Buyer must contact eBay Financing Center Customer Support with the result of the inspection. If the Buyer refuses the vehicle, the refund will be sent to the Buyer after the tracking number for the returned shipment is verified. If the vehicle is accepted, eBay Financing Center Department submits the payment directly to the Seller within 3 business days.


Need Help?

For any questions please E-mail us.


Thank you,
eBay Financing Center Customer Support
eBay Buyer Protection Program
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by supersnake Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:59 am
The bank account has been shut down that quickly??!! I am glad I posted it then.
by TerranceBoyce Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:12 pm
We don't know that it has and we never will know supersnake.

However, it has been reported, and any stolen funds laundered through that account subsequent to being reported, the bank is liable to repay to any victim if the victim challenges the bank. It therefore means that the account represents a potential loss of £10,000 to £20,000 or potentially more depending on how quickly the bank acts. Banks are quite quick when there is a potential monetary loss. The personal account managers aren't well paid and they are judged strictly on maximising profit and minimising losses. These accounts bring only grief and losses and the PAM's career is at risk, and spending all day dealing with the fraud department and complaints isn't what they're paid to do.

In my day we could see these accounts coming a mile off and never took them on. That's what clever bankers do. They will learn.

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by supersnake Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:35 pm
Re Sarah/Evelyn

Well I have another bank account for her now as I told her I could not use the one she gave me!

Beneficiary: I. Ciorciovel
Bank Name: Barclays
Account no: 13159809
Sort Code: 20-95-61
City: London
Country: United Kingdom

I hope this one gets stopped also.
I think I have milked her enough now and she must be getting suspicious that I have rumbled the scam, I only hope I don't get any visits from Romanians with large base ball bats!!!
by Bryon Williams Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:32 pm
Hello supersnake,

Could you post the email header and email where the scammer asked you make payment to that bank account. Just remove your personal information.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


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by erinrose Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:02 pm
I just received a text from evesale1 that reads: if you still want the Mercedes cls for 5,150 email me at [email protected] I expected a scam as I inquired about the car last week and heard nothing back until the classified listing on ebay has ended. First thing I saw when searching @ukmpd.com was scammers.com, Glad I checked... thanks... SO BEWARE FOLKS ITS BEEN A SILVER MERCEDES CLS 55 AMG ON EBAY JUST THIS LAST WEEK!! :beer:
by supersnake Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:52 am
this is all I have on the last account number

Dear ..............

We have assigned another bank account which you can use for payment:

eBay Financing Center Agent*:

Beneficiary: I. Ciorciovel
Bank Name: Barclays
Account no: 13159809
Sort Code: 20-95-61
City: London
Country: United Kingdom

*Bacs, CHAPS and Faster Payments are accepted. You can use online banking in order to complete the payment.

Thank you for being part of the eBay community.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/
______________________________
eBay
The World's Online Marketplace

Bank Details Noted - Michelle
by TerranceBoyce Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:08 am
One simple way to protect yourself as a consumer would be to drop out of a deal if you're offered a Barclays bank account to receive your money. For reasons I cannot comprehend the majority of bank accounts reported here are with that bank and the resulting consequential effect is inevitable.

Anyone caught by one of these scammers should pursue a complaint with the bank and then take it up with the FOS as both the police and CIFAS state that those involved will be required to pay back money to their victims.

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by glen13 Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:41 pm
Hi
just came across this website & had to post a replay.
We have had a near miss :?
We saw a VW Caddy van Reg CY59 LRX £5,199 on Autotrader.
What a scam - Emails for you all to view

[email protected]
Hello,
Its still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages, nothing to worry about. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments, If this is going to be a quick sale I will let it go for £5,199 delivered at my costs. Are you familiar to eBay? I will list the vw caddy eBay Motors for the £5,199 buy it now price and I will send you a link to my auction, so you can buy it immediate.
As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed delivery without any additional costs for you.
In case you are not familiar with them, please read their Buyer Protection and will see that they cover 100% the transaction done through them up to £50,000. You will receive the vw caddy with all the documents. As you know eBay is the best company of online transactions. If indeed interested in it and have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you

Evelyn



Hi Evelyn

Thanks for your email.
Yes i am very interested in the caddy van & i am familiar with ebay & the rules.
If you can list this item on ebay (& provide me with the item number, i will click buy it now)

I am happy to come to you straight away to collect the van. I have the money ready in cash.
Having the van delivered to me may be a problem as i work very long & erratic hours but not impossible ?

Can i confirm this is an original Sportline caddy van?
Does this come with a full service history? as i can not find the van listed any more & i can not check your advert.



Hi this is an original sportline caddy van and comes with full service history. Here is how the process works through the Buyer Protection Program:

- I make the private listing on eBay for you,
- you go and buy it through their website,
- you have to pay for the item to eBay to secure the funds,
- they confirm me that they received the funds,
- I deliver the van,
- you receive the van,
- they send me the money,

Everything is covered by eBay. I will get paid only after you confirm that you received the van in good order.
Let me know if this is acceptable. Thank you

Evelyn


Hi
I fully understand the ebay process.
Like i mentioned in my previous email - i have cash ready for the van. I am willing to click buy it now to secure the caddy, but it would be cash on collection only.
I can collect the van this weekend.
Like i said before i work very long & erratic hours so delivery will be a problem.
As you can appreciate, it is a lot of money & i feel uneasy paying for something that i have not seen.

Are you free this weekend so i can come, see & pay cash for the caddy?


Sorry for inconvenience but viewing or pick up with cash is not available this is the reason I insisted to do it genuine with eBay. A full refund/return policy is available.
Thank you

Evelyn


The mail address was ([email protected])

What does everyone think??

We were very very lucky
Last edited by Bryon Williams on Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:09 pm, edited 1 time in total. Reason: Added quotation for clarity
by Bryon Williams Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:13 pm
Welcome to ScamWarners glen13,

Yes, 100% scam attempt. Ebay will not cover the transaction. It will all be fake. The scammer will have you wire money into a Bank Account, Western Union or Money Gram.

You did the correct thing by insisting to physically see the vehicle, check it out and pay cash once you have title in hand.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
by Madkev Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:19 pm
Hi there guys I have been fooled by these scammers and it the same address and same bank I feel like a idiot and have lost £4590 the car has been advertised again on gumtree same car just different phone number so watch out for a audi a6 reg dg06ogv I have contacted gumtree several times and have reported it to action fraud but have had no response off any of them these scammers need stopping as there is loads of cases off loads of people and it seems like no one is interested in helping anyone get there money Back as the banks are as much use as I chocolate fire guard I have spent two day trying to no joy can anyone help
by TerranceBoyce Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:40 pm
Can you mention the bank details ?

We know what bank it's likely to be and the nationality of the account holder as they follow a monotonously regular pattern. If the account has already been reported you do at least have grounds on which to ask why it hadn't already been shut down.

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by TerranceBoyce Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:02 pm
Madkev I have sent you a pm.

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by martinhughes Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:50 pm
These are still going on i was scammed at the start of June with this van, i have reported this seller to ebay about three hours ago and the van is still up.
This is the description of the van:


Hi, I am selling my Trafic van. I have had this vehicle since Feb 2010 and I absolutely love it and will be very sad to see it go. I use it recreationally (mountain biking, camping etc) and the only reason I am selling it is because I am moving abroad and can't take it with me. I think it is a pretty unique vehicle with the alloy wheels, side bars and metallic paint. About 18 months ago I added a Parrot bluetooth system and a Kenwood ICE system - this includes touchscreen satnav, DVD player and iPod/iPhone dock. All this will be included in the van. It has a service history and the book shows it had the timing belt changed at 72k miles. When I got it it had around 96k and since then I have given it a full service at around 108k (when it was last MOTed).

If there are any questions please c all: 02035821999

With 2,600 can be yours .

Thank you!

I have also reported it to action fraud.

Martin Hughes.

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