Robert Lucas - Car Scammer

Hi Sarza

Welcome to Scamwarners,

i am glad you found out about this scam before losing any money, well done.

Please do not reply to any more emails from this person, completely ignore him and he will go away.

It is worth noting in the first message from the scammer that he suggests he lives in Sydney yet the post code given is not a NSW post code.

If you have any questions, please dont hesitate to ask

Oh, good luck with selling your car to a legitimate buyer

Hi
Same thing just happened to me. I thought it was too good to be true someone wanted to buy a car without looking it and mentioning they have restricted internet access but can go on carsales.com so i did a google search on their email address and found this forum

emails were from
[email protected]
[email protected]

Hi Johnny

Weelcome to Scamwarners.

I am glad you found it strange and did some checking.

Thank you also for posting, your information will help prevent others from being scammed.

Please share your story with family and friends, the more people who know about this type of scam the better

You seem to be well sorted but if you have any questions please dont hesitate to ask

I just received the same scam after posting my car for sale on craiglist . Here is the email thread with headers.

I hope this helps others.

X-Apparently-To: xxxxx via 68.142.201.96; Mon, 31 May 2010 06:51:56 -0700
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
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From:
yvonne miskell <[email protected]>
Add sender to Contacts
To: XXXXX
Subject: RE: 2001 X5 Sport 4.4 Loaded 140,500 miles - $11000 (Euless)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 13:51:35 +0000
Importance: Normal
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Thanks for the mail... I am a marine engineer am currently on
offshore and i log onto craiglist and found this nice item of yours i
am highly interested in buying the car for my dad and also i will be
offering you sum 12,000 USD and i will be paying you via paypal
because i have no access to cash here. so i have to attached my bank
account with my paypal account i will be able to make the payment as
soon as you tell me to go ahead and do it i will like you to send me
your pay pal email address so that i can proceed payment before
pickup...

Regards....

Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 06:25:38 -0700
From: xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 2001 X5 Sport 4.4 Loaded 140,500 miles - $11000 (Euless)
To: [email protected]

The X5 is still for sale.

You can find more information on it at autotrader:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?c ... d=65338515

I am asking $11,000. The buyer pays Title fees, Sales Tax and any fees for registration.


Thanks for looking.

XX

--- On Sun, 5/30/10, yvonne miskell <[email protected]> wrote:


From: yvonne miskell <[email protected]>
Subject: 2001 X5 Sport 4.4 Loaded 140,500 miles - $11000 (Euless)
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 8:46 PM

** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html


Hello is this item still available for sale? Also how much is the total price of it get back to me as soon as possible
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this message was remailed to you via: [email protected]

Hi lucasgarza and welcome to ScamWarners.

Thank you so much for posting these emails you have received, they will be useful for other people to find here, and may save people from becoming a victim of this scammer.

Thank you for posting the header information too.

X-Originating-IP: [67.159.5.116]

That is a proxy server, which hides the true location of the scammer. Some internet cafés use proxy servers (there are several in Lagos, Nigeria which do so), and sometimes a person deliberately uses one to mask their true location.

I'm glad you recognised it as a scam.

From: L C ([email protected])
Sent: Monday, 19 July 2010 11:07:37 PM
To: xxxxxxx

Thanks for the prompt response.. I am ready to buying it now for birthday gift for brother in-law and i am at sea at the moment as i am a marine engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I really want it to be a surprise for brother in-law so i wont let him know anything about it until it gets delivered to him, i am sure he will be more than happy with it. I insisted on paypal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my paypal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your paypal email address and the price so i can make the payments asap for it and pls if you don't have paypal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com.au and get it set up, after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money through. I have a pick up agent that will come and pick it up after i have made the payments...

Thanks
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Yeah I received the same email a few months ago when I first put my car up for sale and didn't reply because it seemed dodgey. This is the address he used this time.

BTW the first email was from: [email protected]

And the contact from a few months ago was: Trish Gant ([email protected])

Here is the thread:

Thanks for the prompt response.. I am ready to buy it now for birthday gift for brother in-law and i am at sea at the moment as i am a marine engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I really want it to be a surprise for my brother in-law so i wont let him know anything about it until it gets delivered to him, i am sure he will be more than happy with it. I insisted on paypal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my paypal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your paypal email address and the price so i can make the payments asap for it and pls if you don't have paypal account yet, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com.au and get it set up, after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with paypal so as to put the money through. I have a pick up agent that will come and pick it after i have made the payments...

Thanks


On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:01 AM, xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Trish,

yes I do have it for sale still. I'm currently studying in Italy (which is why I'm selling it) and my sister is taking care of it for me in Brisbane.



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Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live?



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Do you still have it for sale?

Hey Guys
Im SO glad theres sites like yours that help with this kind of stuff. Ive never used paypal before and so had no idea what i shouldve been looking for.
Ive had word-for-word exactly the same scam on my car sale ad over the last few days from a guy calling himself Mark Lewis under [email protected] email address.
I was tentative and suspicious but it was really confirmed by that first official-looking paypal email (ive had several scince) and it was only in googling the shipping company that i came accross the scam reports. the details i recieved were :Transport Company: UAB"Kuršiu Linija"

Agent's Info:
Name: Wesley Reagan
Address: Flat 18,Riverhope Mansion
Harlinger Street,se185ss
Country: United Kingdom

My next question for you guys though is how do i get rid of him safely? ive scrolled through and i dont think ive given anything away but i really dont feel very same with my email account, address and cell phone numbers available now, even if they are overseas. Reccommended course of action?
Cheers

Hi Steph, welcome to Scamwarners.

Well done on spotting this as a scam

The best thing to do now is to simply ignore eany further attempts to contact you and he will move on.

Be on the lookout for other scam emails that may (or may not) also include some of your own information to look more authentic.

If you really wanted to you could abandon your email address, change your phone number and move house but in most cases non of the above is necessary so long as you stay vigilant and suspicious.

If you have any doubts about any emails you receive do some searching and of course feel free to ask here

i have a few cars for sale here are some names of scammers
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Welcome JohnJoe,

Can you post the emails from the three you listed? Scripts can be as important as email addresses when it comes to prevention!

Hi new here. Just got a mail from [email protected]
Luckly i googled the email and found this.. he is a Sailor now.

here is the mail i got

I really appreciate your response to my earlier mail.like i said i will like to buy this Car so please do withdraw the advert from Site. I will also like you to know that i will be paying via check due to the distance as i am located in United Kingdom in London, But am currently now in Qatar due to my Job as a Sailor, am on the Ship on a sea in Qatar now.And all this following information will be needed by my Secretary to facilitate the mailing of the check to you from London.

1.Your full name
2.Your mailing address be it residential or postal address
3.Your phone number.
4.Asking Price.

**I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping i will have my mover come over as soon as you have cashed the check**
Have a nice day.

Regard,

Sailor,
John Bull

A very confused scammer

i am located in United Kingdom in London, But am currently now in Qatar due to my Job as a Sailor, am on the Ship on a sea in Qatar now

His ship is on a sea. He got that bit right but if he's got a secretary then his job isn't as a sailor, more likely a Rear Admiral. This is one extremely witless scammer.

It's a little unlikely that a sailor would wait until he's at sea before he decides to buy a car. It's like the flat owners who put their flats up for let, then immediately go abroad.

[email protected] <---------- scamming cars on craigslist

is the newest one for this guy scamming cars i just got all that fake paypal shit from him today but im going to play along with him i told him i sent the money which i didint here is the latest BS he just sent me

Hi,

I just want to inform you that i have just completed the payment and i
hope you must have been notified in your email about the payment i
made through PayPal, you can check your e-mail for confirmation of
payment, I have just make the payment of $2,409.85 USD to your PayPal
account. i have add the amount of $758.85 USD which i told you about
earlier, So please i will like you to help me wire the sum of $658.85
USD to my agent via western union immediately and once this is done i
will send the remaining balance asap to your PayPal account. PayPal
said they won't release the funds until they get the western union
information from you due to the fact that i emailed them about the
excess payment i made,I added extra $100.00 USD to cover the western
union charges ,So i will need you to send the $658.85 USD to my pick
up agent Headquarters where they normally confirm any commission
payment to via western union money transfer (this can be done from the
post office,or online at www.westernunion.com) as they usually have a
western union agent there) ,
Here is my pick up agent Headquarter info needed to get the money sent
through western union money transfer.

Name: Charles David Bizjak
Address: N7773 Borglin av,
Greenwood Wis 54437.

I will be looking forward to read from you soon.
Bill.
this guy is not going to get any money from me how do i go about reporting this guy

When you've taken a scammer this close to payday and then you jangle him about, it's possible he'll retaliate by mail-bombing you or making silly threats about the FBI or Interpol, which is why baiters only ever play with scammers using fake details. Playing with a scammer who has your real life details puts you at a disadvantage, so it's best not to do it.

Aside from publicising their activities and the mailboxes they use it's hard to do more, as getting their mail addies shut down only leads them to set up new ones we know nothing about. By making details public it's at least possible for potential victims to find their way here through Google and drop the scammer, and he'll never know why. Here the purpose is to stop scammers getting victims' money.

Personally I bait them too, but that's handled at 419eater and it's where the victim becomes the hunter.