tinadeal.com or ameliamart.com

Your broken English gives the necessary clues to who you are. Please don't post again.

Excuss me "Abtronic", I Will post any time I know what and when I feel are real.and you don't know at all. Because I am telling the truth and for paypay I used them for over 25 years with no issues. So please don't call me a liar in more ways than one. As far a my grammar, that wasn't my strong suit going through school. I am an American and was born in Kentucky in 1959, and your just a negative human being without a life. I'll pray for you but you have a closed mind . Maybe some day you can open it up a bit and see the class of water half full. Take care God Bless ! Regards Anthony,,,

To make it clear to the readers here:

I don't know if EarthUsGod is a scammer, or if he just can't understand what is going on, or if he just doesn't care if he is helping scammers convert credit cards into cash and putting himself in the middle of fraud, as long as he gets something for cheap. As it appears EarthUsGod is trying to lead others to take stupid risks, and his English is indeed full of mistakes and at times difficult to comprehend, abtronic's concerns are NOT unwarranted.

For the sake of those people who don't want to get involved in things that are risky and very likely both unethical and illegal, I will address his posted explanation.

So maybe these items are for sale because the Buyers have an over stock and need to dispose of them intstead of losing more money.

Every person who has received items from this string of sites (and many others have NOT received the items at all) has reported that they were shipped DIRECTLY from a major retailer, under someone else's name. The BUYERS (and Ameliamart) cannot have an overstock, because they don't even HAVE the items. In order to have an overstock, you have to have a stock in the first place! So this "theory" makes no sense from the start.

Maybe some day you can open it up a bit and see the class of water half full.

I'm sure that abtronic is quite capable of seeing the Glass of water half full. He just doesn't want to be looking at it from inside a prison cell.

Whether earthusgod is a scammer or an unknowing victim who simply doesn't care that he could be helping criminals and risking his future in order to save $20, he is an adult, and can make his own decisions.

But we are here to help prevent people from getting mixed up in scams, and we will stop ANYONE from leading them into scams, whether that person is a scammer or a victim. So let me make it clear one more time:

The red flags associated with these sites are way to numerous to ignore.
If you ignore these flags and order from these sites anyway, you risk:
a) losing your money
b) ending up in the middle of a credit card fraud and/or money laundering investigation that can affect your whole life.

Your broken English gives the necessary clues to who you are. Please don't post again.

Excuss me "Abtronic", I Will post any time I know what and when I feel are real.and you don't know at all. Because I am telling the truth and for paypay I used them for over 25 years with no issues. So please don't call me a liar in more ways than one. As far a my grammar, that wasn't my strong suit going through school. I am an American and was born in Kentucky in 1959, and your just a negative human being without a life. I'll pray for yoBOUGUDS u but you have a closed mind . Maybe some day you can open it up a bit and see the class of water half full. Take care God Bless ! Regards Anthony,,,

so i'm closing my :
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I recently purchased an item with ameliadeal.com, as they show up on google in the sidebar for preferred vendors. I assumed they were legitimate but soon found them to be fradulent. A no. of posts already confirm this and your website was invaluable in confirming my suspicions. PayPal and my credit card have been notified. Within minutes of contacting PayPal ameliadeal emailed a refund notification. Now I will await verification from from both credit accounts.

I'm really glad I read these comments before buying from ameliadeal.com. I wondered why they had much lower prices than anywhere else. I haven't had any experiences with tinadeal.com or ameliamart.com but I am pretty confident that they are related to ameliadeal.com. I was on the page looking for credentials and business statements and at the bottom of the page I read the About Us statement. The grammar and poor punctuation set off a few red flags.

About us

Welcome to ameliadeal.com ! We hope that you enjoy shopping experience with us. - Are you tired searching around Google for the Coupon/Discount code? Our aims are : 1. We want to give you best deal,give you the best shopping experience ever and stay with us. 2. We only sell BRAND NEW item, We say no to refurbished. If you find it's a refurbished item, we will refund. NO TAX, NO SHIPPING COST, NO HIDDEN CODE. We paid those for you.

Also, when doing a search for the company name as ameliadeal.com in google, the Walmart slogan Save Money Live Better is used.

Thanks to all of you who help others avoid fraud.

ameliadeal.com ( ameliadeal ) has the same creation date and expiration date as ameliamart.com . Same domain and registrar.

Domain Name: AMELIADEAL.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS1.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Name Server: DNS2.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Name Server: DNS3.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Name Server: DNS4.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Name Server: DNS5.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 27-aug-2013
Creation Date: 27-aug-2013
Expiration Date: 27-aug-2014

Domain Name: AMELIAMART.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS1.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Name Server: DNS2.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Name Server: DNS3.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Name Server: DNS4.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Name Server: DNS5.REGISTRAR-SERVERS.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 27-aug-2013
Creation Date: 27-aug-2013
Expiration Date: 27-aug-2014

Hello guys,

My friend purchased some fishing reel from that ameliadeal site, like a month ago. I was really skeptical about the website for many of the reasons stated here.But he went through it anyway.

He did receive the fishing reel, but it was delivered from Walmart, which I found really odd. So today he tells me he was going to order 2 more, and gave me the info to order the stuff. I type in the ameliadeal web address and it says store unavailable. So I'm like, WTH?

So, I then go to my friends e-mail to click the link of the product that was purchased. I click it and instead of going to ameliadeal now it's a site called kathideal. That's when I decided to google the ameliadeal site name and landed here.

Like everyone else has said, they are doing some illegal stuff obviously and they're customer service reps.... well they speak broken English. Just wanted to registered here and share my experience. They have now moved to a new domain, again.

I just hope, these guys get caught because seems like they keep making new domain names!

My friend want's me to help him order some more reels again and I told him what I read here. But his reply to me was that he doesn't care if they are stolen or not, in my mind I was like "Is this guy freaking serious?" .

He can go to prison and give his card to scammers all he wants. But I am not going to jail because of him, trying to save $120. Thanks guys, for putting my doubts to rest.

www.kathideal.com Edit to add full URL MW