AutoTrader scammer - Jordan Evans [email protected]

Good Morning all,

I am based in the UK, London and have my Audi S8 listed on the UK Autotrader. I have just received a very similar scam message from a chap who calls himself John Waters [email protected]. The mobile number he gives out is +447035955287. As I have received numerous scam messages in the past I thought of googling the name and number and came accross this site and its various posts. Initially the first enquiry I have received is:

Customer Details:
NAME: MR john
TELEPHONE:
EMAIL: [email protected]

Vehicle Details:
MAKE: AUDI
MODEL: S8
PRICE: £29995

Message:
Its your still available for sale.Let me know you current price ?

To Which I replied:
Dear John,

Thanks for your enquiry. Yes the car is still available. Price wise I would be willing to accept in excess of £28,750
Regards
Julien

Following that he send this bs:
Hello,
I am glad to inform you that i am satisfied with the details and conditions of your car on the advert.

Presently,i am in Italy for an assignment and am planing to relocate to Singapore. i will travel down to UK and complete the transaction.Firstly, i will like you to please put off the advert to avoid interruptions from other interested buyers and count it sold.

Concerning the price and my terms of payment,i will be glad to pay you £28200.00.

I will send you a Bank cheque of £5000.00 which i will allow it to clear into your bank account .

You will deduct £1000.00 as a non-refundable deposit.

The remaining £4000.00 on the deposit will be sent to the shipping agent asap the cheque cleared into your bank account. I was informed by him that, he will need the funds for shipping in advance .The shipping agent needs to complete the shipping document and book a slot at the seaport before i will be traveling down to UK.i don't want to be delayed in UK due to present situation.i am trying to relocate to Singapore.I would have love to send the payment alone and get the extra issue out to the haulage company but it takes longer to get UK payment cash elsewhere and would cause delay in transaction as i believe we both don't want any delay in the transaction.


The remaining balance of £27300.00 will be payed to you,by cash or bank transfer before the car can be pick up.i will be waiting for 48hrs for you to confirmed the balance before the shipping agent can pick it up .Let me know the best way you want the balance to be paid?

i will be using a local haulage company agent to come and collect it from your location as they would be collecting some other items for me asap the balance has been confirmed by you .It will be shipped to SINGAPORE.the reason for this shipment method is due to congestion at the Singapore seaport, which does not make it directly shippable there.


I will compensating you with £100 for the time involve in paying the shipping agent and also for you to withdraw the advert immediately you receive the deposit.

If you accept my terms of payment,get back to me with the NAME,ADDRESS AND CONTACT MOBILE TELEPHONE NUMBER for Bankers cheque to be delivered to you .I look forward to a successful transaction with you and await your urgent response.

PLEASE NOTE,ITS WHEN THE FULL PAYMENT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY YOU BEFORE THE DOCUMENT WILL BE RELEASE TO ME AND SIGN


John.
+447035955287

Pretty much the same message as previously received by other posters here.
Seller beware!!!!
J.

This Scam Artist is now active on Craigslist! This time he didn't know he was trying to scam a police officer!

Here are the emails sent in the order indicated:

Email 1:
Hi
Listed still available?

John Stephen

Email 2:
Thanks for your mail and am satisfy with the add and the listed price,
I am ready to buy it now for my son as a surprise promise gift,And due
to the nature of my work,phone calls making and visiting of website
are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send
you an email regarding it.i would be glad to pay for it as soon as
possible though i will not be available to come for an inspection due
to my tight schedule.Kindly get back to me with the following
questions below:


1) Pick up Location?
2) Your PayPal Email ID to effect the payment

I would be glad to make the payment immediately through PayPal so
kindly get back to me with your PayPal ID. You need not to worry
yourself about title transfer and shipment,i will instruct the
shipping company to handle that therefore in order to complete the
transaction do get back to me with your PayPal ID and total cost so
that I can make the payment asap. I will
be waiting for your reply!

Thanks and God bless (NOTE THE REFERENCE TO GOD This is designed to make you think he he must be honest and make you more comfortable.)

Email 3:
Thanks for the mail,i am buying this for my son as his gift because i would not be around to celebrate with him i am a petroleum engineer currently on a rig offshore and due to the nature of my work,phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. I really want this item to be a surprise gift for my son so i wont let him know anything about the item until it gets delivered to him,i am sure he will be more than happy with the item.I will make the payment through paypal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account,as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your PayPal email address so i can make the payment as soon as possible for the item and pls if you don't have PayPal account yet,it is very easy to set up, go on www.paypal.com and get it set up ,after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with PayPal so as to put the money through.I have a pick up agent that will come for the pick up immediately you have receive the payment in full.i also want you to remove it from cl.
Jordan David

If your watch these emails his name will be inconsistant and you will see many different free email services being used. They try to scam so many people that they lose track of exactly which name they were using when they talked to you. They also refer to your car or the thing you were selling as "the item." This is due to the fact that they use a form email that they re-use for different scams.

Names used in this scam:
Jordan Evans
Jordan David
John Stephen

Email addresses:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Ok so I'm a Brit in Vancouver, BC and about to return to the mother land and I appear to have been nearly nailed with this same scam by a chap called Pete (Peter?) Doyle. I won't repeat all of the email drivel that other users have obviously received and pointed out already (there's plenty of info on this thread so far - I actually found my way here by googling a whole sentence of the scammer's email after his email address didn't show up on a web search).

However in case anyone gets hit by the same bloke (or bird I guess) his email address is: [email protected]. He actually initially got in touch with me by phone and the number is: 863 216 8492 - a number in FLORIDA!!! (which I evidently should have spotted straight away!). I have no idea how this a*sehole makes money like this but I wish them all the worst in their endeavours...

Anyway it looks like I'm gonna have to give my car away but I'd rather do that than give one cent to this git!

Going to have some fun with him before mugging him off - the warning about not educating them duly noted.

T79.

Hello threadders79 and welcome to scamwarners.

One of the reasons that the script is posted here on scamwarners is for people to do an internet search of the script or parts of. As you can see its effective in warning people of the scam.

Thanks for updating the email address you posted. As you mentioned, we do not educate these scammers / criminals. Nor, do we inform them that they are posted here.

Do not lead him on/bait him if he has any of your personal (Real Life) information. He is a criminal after all.

If you want to learn how to bait safely visit our sister site. http://www.419eater.com

Bryon

Thanks Bryon that's great. Your lead-on/bait warning was a bit late as I already sent him a message saying I could only take cash as I was a convicted fraudster myself!! Ah well, he hasn't got back to me.

Also I woke up this morning to another enquiry from a St Matt Clinton ([email protected]). This time the scammer messaged me from his Texas number 972 532-3729. He obviously thinks I'm thick. Looks like I'll just give the car to charity or something... Really glad I went to the bother of posting it on Kijiji.

Hey there!
I received an email from Don First, [email protected]. I kept on writing with him, as to see whats going to happen, even though I fortunately read this thread after I received the first mail with his demand for Paypal.

Paypal fake email (1st):
You have an Instant Payment of $3,250.00 CAD From "Don First"

Summary of this payment

Send from:

[email protected]

Items Amount:

$2,350.00 CAD
Pick-up & WU Fee:
$900.00 CAD
Total:
$3,250.00 CAD

Issues with this transaction

This is to inform you that you are required to send the sum of $850.00 CAD to the address below via Western Union Money Transfer and get back to us with the relevant information which you will be provided with after the money has been sent, you are requested to email us the MTCN(Money Transfer Control Number), Sender's name and address used to make the transfer. As soon as we have received these information from you, we will credit the total sum of $3,250.00 CAD to your PayPal account. Below is the address where the money is to be sent to using western union money transfer.


Agent's Info:

First Name:YUJIA
Last Name: MA
Address: Central North Fourth,
City: Beijing,
State: Beijing,
Zip Code: 100027,
Country: China.

Address Status:
Confirmed

How to contact us regarding this transaction

All you have to do is to send us an email at [email protected] with the MTCN #, Sender's name and Address used when sending the money. Once it has been verified and the details above sent to us, you will receive a "CONFIRMATION E-mail" from PayPal® Service informing you that your account has been credited with $3,250.00 CAD.

Thanks,
PayPal.

Paypal fake Emai (2nd)l:
This email confirms that the payment confirmation e-mail you recently received as regard the payments of $3,250.00 CAD sent to you by Don First Originated from PayPal® Service. As soon as you have e-mailed the necessary Western Union details for a transferred sum of $850.00 CAD to the address you were provided with in the payment confirmation e-mail sent to you earlier, a sum of $3,250.00 CAD will be credited into your account.

Your Account will be credited accordingly upon the receipt of details requested . It should either be sent in JPG format or type the details as: Sender's Name: Receiver's Name: MTCN: Amount Sent.

Please, understand that this is a security measure to help protect both the Buyer and the Seller. Therefore, we apologize for the inconvenience that we may have caused you.
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Note: For inquiries, you can contact our customer care service by sending us an email at [email protected], as this transaction was done via e-mail, all inquiries should be directed to this e-mail address only, all inquiries about this transaction directed to our phone service section will be returned as null and void.
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Scam Defence
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Thank you for using PayPal Security !


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His answer mail:
Thanks for your mail, I'm very much interested. This is a surprise gift for my Son and it must be presented in few Weeks from now. I will email my private courier now and proceed with the payment asap.

Immediately the payment is completed, the agent will contact you in-order to pick up at any location of your choice and he will also be of assistance concerning the change of ownership by presenting all the information's/documents needed to transfer the change of ownership. This transaction is based on HUGE amount of trust and I expect to see this from your side as it is on my side. The only thing I'll like to say is that if there is any problem which you're yet to mention, please let me know now. Reply ASAP. Thanks !!

Don

Answer nr. 2:
Hey, The response I have just received from my private courier was that, they won't be able to come pick up unless i pay them the upfront commission fee of $850 first in order to be able to schedule a pick up time and date, and my private courier headquarters is in the CHINA and all commission payments made for pickup, from anywhere in the world is sent to their head quarters in the China and the only form of payments they accept is Western Union Money Transfer.

I will add the said $850 to the money I will send through PayPal Account to your bank account. As soon as I made the payment and you receive the confirmation of payment from PayPal, , please I will need you to help me send the money to my pick up agent Hq in china through western union money transfer. This can be done from any western union post office, as there is always western union money transfer section in most post office.

I would have done it myself but there is no post office on the ship and i tried to pay online (http://www.westernunion.com) but i will need a credit card which i didn't bring aboard the ship, and there is no post office(there is usually a western union section in most post offices) or any western union agent on sea! so i have to ask you to help me with the pick up fees, I'm a little incapacitated....I will be making the full payment as soon i read back from you. I will appreciate your help here....

Thanks for been nice and considerate about this.

Don

Another one:
from: [email protected]
Hi, I just want to inform you that i have just completed the instant payment, i hope you must have been notified in your email about the payment i made through PayPal, you can check your email Inbox or Junk folders for confirmation of payment and to confirm your payment, I have just make the payment of $3,250, i have also decided to add the amount of $900 which i paid through PayPal, so you can now send $850 to my private courier agent via Western Union so he can be able to come for the pick up. I will need you to send the $850 to my private courier agent Headquarters where they normally confirm any commission payment to via Western Union Transfer, i added extra $50 cover the western union charges which shouldn't be more that $20-40 but just to be sure i added $50, Here is my private courier agent Headquarters info needed to get the money sent through western union transfer:

First Name: YUJIA
Last Name: MA
Address: Central North Fourth,
City: Beijing,
State: Beijing,
Zip Code: 100027,
Country: China.

Please kindly email the necessary details to PayPal :The MTCN Number, which you will be given at the western union after the $850 has been sent and also mail PayPal the sender's name and address used to send the money through western union as well... Awaiting for your swift response asap.. Thanks !!

I just wanted to post all this that people might see how this fraud is going to like! Hope it prevents people from being scammed when they google his email address!

Thanks to this awesome website, it helped me a lot!

Regards,

frvaboe

I got nearly the identical scam from 'Lisa Lamb' ([email protected]) alias 'Dana A Kreis-Glencer' as follows:

From an autotrader ad:

Message:
Do you still have this listed Vehicle available for sale? Lisa.

I responded yes, then received this:


Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this Vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I'm an Oceanographer and i am presently on a contract which will end in couple of months,the contract is strictly no call due to the lack of reception on the sea area,but I'm able to access my mail through my laptop and my only quickest payment option is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the pay pal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.
If you don't have an account with paypal,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as my Dad's birthday is fast approaching,am sure he will love this vehicle,his a mechanic and a handy man,so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it.
I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
Full name:
Firm Price:
Zip code for pickup:

Thanks.

Lisa.


I got suspicious but sent an Invoice from Paypal, not providing my email adress as requested. I then received this reply:



Subject: Payment has been made

I had a little problem with the mover they said they can only schedule the pick up date and time after they receive their money for the pick up fee via Western Union money transfer in there head office in Baltimore, So i included $1400 and $100 to the payment i sent to your paypal account, PayPal will instruct you on how to get the money sent to my mover.

The payment has been made and the money has been deducted from my account...Kindly get the shipping fee sent to the name and address below and send the details to paypal email customer care for your total funds to be credited. I believe that since payment has been made, the advert should be taken off the site and please do let me know your free date and time so that i can give it to my mover to use it to register the date and time they will be coming for the pick up in your location.


Agent details: Victor Johnson,6305 Sefton Avenue,Baltimore, MD 21214, United States

I hope to read from you soon.

Lisa

at which point, I looked up 'paypal scams' and bingo, found this site! I haven't yet received the fake Paypal response, maybe I won't since I didn't provide my email address, but I sure felt like a fool for falling for it. No money lost, so no harm, no foul. Still, watch out for this one. "Too good to be true" was never so accurate!

Hi gutzfam, Welcome to Scamwarners. Good for you for noticing something was wrong and searching out more information. I wish more people would do that before interacting with people on the internet. Also it is always good to hear that the website helped prevent somebody from becoming a victim. Please take a look around and read up on the various scams. Education is our best defense.

This Jordan evans just tried to buy my boat for his sons birthday as he is as usual working away on his oil rig.
I cant imagine if he (or she) thinks how stupid we are, regretfully some are. spread the word!

Hi,

i am selling a car on eBay uk and received the same email but from Andrew Smith <[email protected], i responded yes still for sale and had the same crappy email returned...

Thanks for the mail, i am buying this for my son as his birthday gift because i would not be around to celebrate with him i am a petroleum engineer currently on a rig offshore in UK and due to the nature of my work,phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. In case if you will want to call me to talk to me on phone you can easily call me on this number +447024041070. I really want this item to be a surprise gift for my son so i wont let him know anything about the item until it gets delivered to him , i am sure he will be more than happy with the item.I insisted on paypal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your PayPal email address so i can make the payment as soon as possible for the item and pls if you don't have PayPal account yet,it is very easy to set up, go on www.paypal.com and get it set up ,after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with PayPal so as to put the money through.I have a pick up agent that will come for the pick up immediately you have receive the payment in full.what is your final price including the paypal charges?

i thought he was genuine until 10min after receiving this email i then received a mail identical but from Jordan David [email protected]

Can't believe i was nearly gullible to fall for this...

thanks guys you all helped me out!

I recently put my camping trailer for sale on Kijiji. I received this email after a couple questions about the camper. We sold our truck on the same website a year and a half ago, and almost got the exact same email. Except, being the first time we had done this, we almost fell in the trap! We almost got scammed. So when I seen this the other day, I knew right away it was a scam. I emailed bak saying, "cash only and in person sorry to try to scam someone else I'm not stupid buddy"


Thanks for getting back to me, i just wanted to make sure nothing is been left out. I will be buying this for the price you have listed it for. Payment will be sent using PayPal and i will handle the PayPal surcharge as well. I will arrange with a shipping company to have this picked up at your location once i have paid as i am out of town at the moment. Am a marine engineer and due to the nature of my work, phone calls making are restricted,so you can send me your PayPal email account so that i can send the payment at once and its easy to sign up for one just log on to www.paypal.com,i will be responsible for the pick up charges Note: i'll also include the Shipping company's fee so kindly Get back to me with your PayPal email account so i can proceed with the payment asap.. Thanks

Hi,

I have been scammed by this guy today and unfortunately I was to late to get my money back. He was very clever with his words and he got me, lucky it was only £100 and not more. but there seems to be a trend so far and that is mainly motor cars. I was selling musical equipment!!!! then when I found out it was a scam i reported it and i told him i was not longer going through with this and he sent me a scam email from interpole!!! but from his email address! DO NOT FALL FOR THIS IT IS A TRAP AND HE WILL TAKE YOUR CASH DO NOT REPLY TO ANYTHING THIS PERSON MAY SEND YOU.

Hi, we have had a similar e-mail contact from this guy today, but he is using the name Andrew Smith, a Petroleum Engineer, otherwise all details are the same. I was a little suspicious as the item we were selling was furniture and he said he wanted it for a birthday present for his son. So I typed his details into google and there it was, other people who also had made contact with this guy and let us know that he was indeed a scammer. I only hope that now you know he is using yet another identity, other people may be made aware of this dubious character.

Thanks for the mail, i am buying this for my son as his birthday gift.....

The scammer is sitting in an internet cafe running through eBay, Craigslist and other sites, sending out exactly the same mail to every seller he can find, which is why he refers to your item as 'this'.

He has no intention of buying anything and he only needs to catch a few sellers in his trap to make a good living out of scamming. His follow up mails will also be a template format but he'll adjust them if necessary.

The 'birthday gift' is a common ploy, usually with the buyer being at sea, on an oil rig or abroad and unable to view or pick up the item himself. To make the scam work he has to convince you to pay money to an intermediary to collect the item, which doesn't make sense but he wants to persuade you to do this by convincing you to use paypal so that he can send you spoof messages pretending he's paid you the price plus the shipping fee.

All he's after is the shipping fee.

If the buyer can't collect your item and he wants you to pay someone to collect it - you're dealing with a scammer. If he can pay you, he could pay the shipper, but the scam wouldn't work if he did that.

Hi Guys, I have been sent a scam from this twat tonight, he is trying to buy my boat, here is his mail

Thanks for the mail, i am buying this for my son as his birthday gift because i would not be around to celebrate with him i am a petroleum engineer currently on a rig offshore in UK and due to the nature of my work,phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an email regarding it. In case if you will want to call me to talk to me on phone you can easily call me on this number +447024041070. I really want this item to be a surprise gift for my son so i wont let him know anything about the item until it gets delivered to him , i am sure he will be more than happy with the item.I insisted on paypal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you to give me your PayPal email address so i can make the payment as soon as possible for the item and pls if you don't have PayPal account yet,it is very easy to set up, go on paypal.com and get it set up ,after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with PayPal so as to put the money through.I have a pick up agent that will come for the pick up immediately you have receive the payment in full.what is your final price including the paypal charges?.

i am just about to tell him to send the money to [email protected]