Motorhome on Ebay

Not sure if I've done this right?

[email protected] is advertising a 'Ducati 1198' on a sale site called gumtree, I emailed Sarah through gumtree to which I had the reply,

Hello,
Its still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages, nothing to worry about. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments, If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £4,200 delivered at my costs. Are you familiar to eBay? I will list the bike on eBay Motors for the £4,200 buy it now price and I will send you a link to my auction, so you can buy it immediate.
As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed delivery without any additional costs for you.
In case you are not familiar with them, please read their Buyer Protection and will see that they cover 100% the transaction done through them up to £50,000. You will receive the bike with all the documents. As you know eBay is the best company of online transactions. If indeed interested in it and have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you

Sarah

I only found out she was scammer through this site, I typed in "@ptdm.net" on google (only because i ain't heard of this as a web address) an then it came up with "[email protected]" on this site, I'd like to thank you all, you saved me a fair chunk of money, thanks people, it's people like these who should be locked up!!!!

I'm sorry if I ain't done this right or replied to somebody random, my apologies as I'm new to this!

Hi, I believe this might be the same person, selling a 12k iveco recovery truck

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 1079010285

Suspiciously cheap! i email him and got a reply:

Hi,

If you are still interested , please answer me with your EMAIL ADDRESS and I will get in contact with you as soon as possible.

Thanks,

I relpied with my email address and asked a couple of questions and got the following reply

if you are still interested in the iveco daliy 35c12 xlwb for £6200 please email [email protected]

Being suspicious from the start and it being strange to have an email address named after what you are selling i google the address and the just the ptdm.com which brought me to this site, Ive reported the listing to ebay,

[email protected]
[email protected]

just had this reply:
Hello,
Are you still interested ? The iveco is still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages, nothing to worry about. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments. If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £6,200 delivered at my costs.
The deal will go strictly according to eBay Buyer Protection rules and policy.
Thank you


Sarah

BEWARE
I was so impressed with this email Ill post details below that i thought bubby would go mad when he saw it he did ! not a gulable as myself IF IT LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT PROBABLY IS
advertised on
friday- ads and on trade it same advert ! why is this motorhome sill listed for sale when its this cheap from 9th march till now?
this is a copy of the email-------------

Hi,
i`m the owner of the van you were interested in buying few days ago. I was away with my son and I just got to see your email.
This van has a full service history and all documentation is present and in my name. It has been stored in undercover storage from new so the exterior is perfect. Mot until december 2013 and taxed till octomber very low miles. The final price is not negotiable: £4400. My husband died 2 months ago and I was left with it but I don`t even have a drivers license. If you agree I can send you the link to my private auction on eBay so you can buy it from there since I all ready had a buyer last week who came up with some fake notes. I don`t really trust someone else to come around my house. Please note that you will be able to check directly on ebay the registration and all the information about it because they did a HPI check(it does not have any outstanding finance). As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed with the delivery without any additional costs for you. You will receive the van with all the documents. As you know eBay is the best company of online transactions. If you are indeed interested in buying it and have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you

£4,400 ? come on laney your sure not that daft to think a 2004 motorhome be that cheap ?

(ALMOST WORD FOR WORD SAME AS OTHERS
but area said Devizes and the email name (probably made up name ! beth moore ? )
im still in denial as it was an amazing van

Mod edit: Quotes added to make reading easier. - CW

This is definitely a scammer, spoke to ebay and friday ad and they confirm this. person has created a fake ebay looking page,
First Advert in Friday Ad, if you get the ebay listing number and enter it nothing happens, also check the sellers id under advanced search.
EBAY DO NOT HAVE A PRIVATE AUCTION FOR ONE PERSON TO VIEW, (ONLY FOR 2ND CHANCE OFFERS)
fakers email address is :[email protected]
(register it to every mail shot company and fill their inbox)
also you are not covered under paypal for any motor listings,
Tell your friends, tell your family and pass the word

Hi,
i`m the owner of the van you were interested in buying few days ago. I was away with my son and I just got to see your email.
This van has a full service history and all documentation is present and in my name. It has been stored in undercover storage from new so the exterior is perfect. Mot until december 2013 and taxed till octomber very low miles. The final price is not negotiable: £2800. My husband died 2 months ago and I was left with it but I don`t even have a drivers license. If you agree I can send you the link to my private auction on eBay so you can buy it from there since I all ready had a buyer last week who came up with some fake notes. I don`t really trust someone else to come around my house. Please note that you will be able to check directly on ebay the registration and all the information about it because they did a HPI check(it does not have any outstanding finance). As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed with the delivery without any additional costs for you. You will receive the van with all the documents. As you know eBay is the best company of online transactions. If you are indeed interested in buying it and have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you

Thanks for your info, nearly got conned today, same letter but from someone purporting to be christine, living in cadiz. Once again divorced drove the van and contents. The e-bay warning about shipping and to cheap to be true.

dave f

Hello and welcome to Scamwarners westhamman100,

I am glad you avoided a scam.

Did the scammer have an email address? If so, posting it will help others avoid being conned by him when they do a search.

Bryon

As above the e-mail address was CHRIS [email protected]

It is the idea that you getting such a bargain, but in the back of your mind you know you getting nothing for nought. Lat night friend came around, gave a price for a new boiler and fitting, the price was so good I asked him if was being scammed for the second time in a day.

Dave F

^^^Thank you for posting the email address.

Cautious and alert is ok in my mind.

Hi, I have just has the same experience on ebay for a 2008 Bailey Ranger 550/6 Caravan #171046338835 for sale by evasivelimbo86

there was no location so I sent an email asking the seller a question last night asking location, received a text tonight from evesale1( how did they get my number from ebay??) saying if I was still interested to respond to the email address [email protected] which I did as I wasn't sure which caravan it was regarding, I got a response straight away from [email protected] stating:


2008 Bailey Ranger 550/6 Caravan
http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n636/BRanger5506/
The caravan is still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages, nothing to worry about. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments. If this is going to be a quick sale, I will let it go for £3,800 delivered at my costs.
The deal will go strictly according to eBay Buyer Protection rules and policy.


Luckily it seemed to good to be true so I did a search on the email address which brought me to this site - thank you

I just hope my posting the details will help save someone else from been scammed as I am not sure how far I would have gone on debating what a good deal it was had I not found this site!!

This person still operating as Evelyn! 'She' sent me a message saying she wouldn't be able to access her ebay email and to contact on her personal email. Wouldn't let me come see the van since she was in Scotland - ringing any bells yet?- and sent message almost identical to one posted above about immaculate condition etc. someone please catch these criminals. This was for a vw campervan, yellow, for 4200. Avoid like the plague.

Welcome to Scamwarners Th'Robster,

Could you please post the email address and paste the script she sent you here. This will help others avoid this scam attempt.

This is an example of the last mail you get before you lose your cash to the scammer.

I've added notes in red to indicate the features pointing to it being a fraud

From PayPal [email protected]
a-paypal.co.uk is a fraudulent domain set up by a fraudster which is impersonating Paypal


Hello Xxxxxx Xxxxxx,

Thank you for using PayPal.
The seller has requested the payment through PayPal and we offered to cover all the risks for you and the seller.

It is our responsibility to inform Buyers about our Sellers. You are dealing with a verified PayPal member, protected by our PayPal services such as insurance and dispute resolution, and you may buy and sell with confidence in all eBay transactions with this seller.

You should proceed accordingly to complete the transaction in a safe manner.

The following is a notice from PayPal Trust & Safety Department regarding:

eBay Purchase
Item Title - VW T5 TRANSPORTER CAMPERVAN 2.5 TDI LWB sunroof,roofrail for driveaway awning,20 inch alloys
Transaction ID - 32121655
Item Price - £5,000.00

Buy safely using eBay's Buyer Protection Program
This vehicle is eligible for up to £10,000 in Buyer Protection when your transaction is completed through PayPal
The Ebay scheme does not apply and you aren't paying via Paypal anyway.
It may take some time for this transaction to appear in the Recent Activity list on your Account Overview.
For any questions contact PayPal Live Support by replying to your purchase invoice.
If you contact Paypal this way you'll be in contact with the scammer
Complete the transaction in 5 easy, secure and safe steps!
1. PayPal accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required from either the buyer or the seller);
Paypal offers no such escrow service and does not offer refunds in this manner. As you are asked to make payment to a bank account Paypal is irrelevant to the transaction anyway.
2. All information received will be processed by PayPal under the direct review of eBay Inc.
3. The Buyer follows instructions and sends the payment to assigned PayPal's representative bank account.
After the payment is cleared and verified by PayPal under the review of eBay Inc, it will be secured into a non-interest bearing trust account. Payment being secured, the Seller is notified by PayPal to deliver the vehicle to the Buyer. The Seller has 7 (seven) business day to start the deliver procedure. The seller must deliver the vehicle for inspection along with the certificate of title, signed Bill of sale in the Buyer's name, all keys and all ownership documents. The vehicle must be delivered along with all documentation requested by the Buyer in order to allow him to change the registration in his name as soon as he will decide to accept it after the inspection period will be over.
If no delivery procedure is started, a full refund is immediately sent to the Buyer.
As soon as the delivery procedure will start, the Buyer should wait for the vehicle and documentation to be delivered.
4. The Buyer receives the vehicle and has 5-7 (five-seven) business days to inspect it. The inspection period will not begin until PayPal has confirmed delivery of the vehicle by either Buyer’s or shipper’s notification.
5. After the inspection period is over, the Buyer must contact PayPal with the result of the inspection of the vehicle.
If he refuses it a full refund is immediately sent to the Buyer if the reason that determined the Buyer not to keep the vehicle is found in the “Situations where an immediate refund will be sent to the Buyer” section on eBay's Buyer Protection program.
The Seller will have the obligation to make all necessary arrangements in order to take the vehicle from Buyer’s possession in maximum 3(three) business days.
If the vehicle and documentation are as advertised, described and agreed, the Buyer should accept it. If the Buyer accepts the vehicle, the payment will be sent to the Seller within 3(three) business days.
How to proceed from this moment?
The conventional method of transferring funds to a PayPal member cannot be used because of the large amount that must be sent.
Payment must be submitted via bank transfer to the PayPal representative bank account assigned for this transaction. PayPal will secure the payment until the Buyer receives, inspects and accepts the vehicle. Or, if it is the case, PayPal will refund the payment to the Buyer.

Protecting the security of your payment is our primary concern, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

PayPal representative Bank account* : Payment details
Bank Name: Barclays Bank
Account number: 43881105
Sort code: 20-29-41
Beneficiary Name: Mr. D. Nicolae
This is the account of a money mule which, in the UK, will mostly be held at Barclays Bank and have an Eastern European name.

Invoice #: 32121655
Subtotal: £5,000.00
Shipping: £0,000.00
Total: £5,000.00

Deposit: £5,000.00

Remaining Balance: £0,000.00

Consult your bank or financial institution for more information on how to complete a bank transfer. Your bank may charge additional fees. Please note that it is extremely important to use the exact details of the account. The beneficiary name must be as written above. Include the Invoice # on the "reference" field of the wire transfer instructions. Failure to use the exact information as stated above will result in your wire transfer being returned to you at your own expense.

CONFIDENTIALITY AND NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT

* Do not disclose any information related to your PayPal payment agreement to any third parties (i.e 1. your seller, 2. your bank)
1. Of to where your funds are being sent.
2. The actual reason the wire transfer is to be sent to your assigned representative.
Contact Us

Direct reply to this e-mail (preferable contact option as a higher quantity of information can be sent/received).

After you wire the money to your assigned PayPal representative please confirm the payment to PayPal Financial Department by replying to your purchase invoice.
PayPal protects your bank account number the same way we protect your credit card number – it's not exposed to merchants when you pay.
Once you wire the payment to your assigned PayPal's representative bank account as per the instructions and non-disclosure agreement above all your money will be fully guaranteed and fully protected.

This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this message.

Sincerely,
PayPal

Copyright © 1999-2012 PayPal. All rights reserved.
PayPal & Cie, S.C.A.
PayPal Email ID PP843

This bank account will be reported for being involved in fraudulent money mule transactions.

Beware - all UK ad sites are overwhelmed by scam adverts of this nature and they're always the best bargains - BE WARNED.

Bank Details Noted - Michelle

The same person trying to sell an Audi Q7 on auto trader. Such a shame these people are around.

Hi,
Unfortunately this is the only way I can sell it at this moment, since I cant offer viewing this is the reason insist to do it genuine with eBay. A full refund/return policy is available.
Thank you

Evelyn

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 4:54 PM, wrote:
Hi Evelyn,

I am ready to buy this but I am a little unsure about the format of buying this car without viewing first, is there anything you can do to prove that this is not a scam of some sort, like send a new picture of the car, maybe of the mileage or something along hem lines.

Regards .

Sent from my iPad

On 30 Jun 2013, at 16:37, Evelyn <[email protected]> wrote:

The car is registered in my name. hpi clear no issues no faults, it has to go lack of use.

Evelyn

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 4:32 PM, wrote:
Hi Evelyn,

Where and whom is the car Registered too and also is the car HPI clear and also why are you selling the car at a low price ?

Kind regards 


Sent from my iPad

On 30 Jun 2013, at 16:26, Evelyn <[email protected]> wrote:

photos
http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/Q7SLI ... O/library/

AUDI Q7 S-LINE QUATTRO 4.2 FSI
FULLY LOADED S-LINE MODEL

1 PREVIOUS OWNER

2007 (56) REG

4.2 FSI PETROL ENGINE

7 SEATER

AUTOMATIC / PADDLE SHIFT GEARBOX

QUATTRO 4 WHEEL DRIVE

ONLY 86,920 MILES FROM NEW WITH AUDI SERVICE HISTORY

LOG BOOK V5

2 KEY'S PRESENT

S-LINE MODEL

4.2 FSI PETROL ENGINE

7 SEATER

AUTOMATIC / PADDLE SHIFT GEARBOX

QUATTRO 4 WHEEL DRIVE

METALLIC SILVER PAINTWORK WITH CHROME PACK

LUXURY BLACK LEATHER INTERIOR - ELECTRIC MEMORY SEATS

AIR CONDITIONING - CLIMATE CONTROL

ELECTRIC WINDOWS - ELECTRIC MIRRORS

CD / RADIO - FACTORY SAT NAV  - BOSE SPEAKERS - I-DRIVE SYSTEM

ALLOY WHEELS

SRS AIRBAGS

REMOTE CENTRAL LOCKING - ALARM - IMMOBILISER

PARKING SENSORS - REVERSING CAMERA

FOG LIGHTS

CRUISE CONTROL - AUDIO CONTROL

ELECTRIC OPEN - CLOSE BOOT

OVER MATS

ALLOY DASH TRIMS

ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 4:24 PM, wrote:
Hi Evelyn,

Its unfortunate that you cannot communicate on the phone but it seems as though using ebays buyer protection would be safe enough. Please could you give me the cars details in a mail and it's history.

Kind regards 


Sent from my iPad

On 30 Jun 2013, at 15:45, Evelyn <[email protected]> wrote:

I am unable with phone so please use email as primary contact option. I dont use phone for internet deals.
Here is how the process works through the Buyer Protection Program:

- I make the private listing on eBay for you,
- you go and buy it through their website,
- you have to pay for the item to eBay to secure the funds,
- they confirm me that they received the funds,
- I deliver the car,
- you receive the car,
- they send me the money,

Everything is covered by eBay. I will get paid only after you confirm that you received the car in good order.
Let me know if this is acceptable. Thank you

Evelyn

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:38 PM, wrote:
Hi Evelyn,

I would like to buy your Q7 and have the funds ready for a quick sale, would it be possible to get a contact number so that I can speak with you about the sale, I understand that using eBay would have its benefits and I would be willing to use this method once satisfied that delivery and transfer of the documents can be done properly and reliably. Please let me know as soon as possible.

Kind regards


Sent from my iPad

On 29 Jun 2013, at 20:47, Evelyn <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello,
Its still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages, nothing to worry about. All necessary documents available. 10 months mot with 5 months tax left. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments, If this is going to be a quick sale I will let it go for £6,700 delivered at my costs. Are you familiar to eBay? I will list the audi q7 eBay Motors for the £6,700 buy it now price and I will send you a link to my auction, so you can buy it immediate.
As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed delivery without any additional costs for you.
In case you are not familiar with them, please read their Buyer Protection and will see that they cover 100% the transaction done through them up to £50,000. You will receive the audi q7 with all the documents. As you know eBay is the best company of online transactions. If indeed interested in it and have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you

Evelyn

On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dan wrote:

Hi eve,

I am very interested in the Q7 you have for sale, please let me know when it would be possible to come and see it.

Kind regards


Sent from my iPhone

It wouldn't surprise me if this or these people are looking at this forum, the first thing that warned me off was the English mistakes in the messages sent, they are only slight but stand out as no one who is from England or Scotland for that matter would make these kind of grammatical errors.