Information on romance scams and scammers.
by messi123 Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:24 pm
Hello today i returned to work after a holiday and received a warning, i believe from someone at this site.

Firstly if genuine please accept my thanks for this, although confused as to how you knew to contact me at that work address and not my personal email address?? But that aside, now that i have this warning i am very concerned.

the warning was about a [email protected]

reason i am worried as i have been communicating with this person for over a month or so and its only in the last week they asked for money

This is quite embarassing as i had no idea and fell for this person charm. I didn't send money but worried that they may be dangerous,,, as they know where i work.

I feel so foolish and can't begin to publish our conversations as there has been one everyday via text and email and messenger.

I have used internet for years and had no trouble and now i think i may have put myself at risk

Can someone help.

Please see email below of what your site sent me today, although please no more warning to my work address:

From: Removed
Sent: Removed
To: Removed
Subject: WARNING : Jimmy Hatefield is a scammer !!!



My name is Johann Meister. I am a volunteer for an internet crime prevention group. My job is to warn people who are victims of romance scams.

Jimmy Hatefield is a scammer. DON'T FALL FOR HIS LIES. He wants your money and NOTHING else.

PLEASE DO NOT INFORM THE SCAMMER THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS. MY INFORMANT WILL BE IN DANGER.


Jimmy Hatefield <[email protected]>


is not really who he says he is. He is a young, black male, in his early 20's. He probably found you on a dating site where he frequently visits so he can find victims. He is also on several other sites world wide. He romances many people at the same time. He eventually asks them all for money. It's how he makes his living.

If you are writing or chatting with him, the best thing to do is stop immediately. Do not confront him. He will lie. He will NEVER tell you anything true. Do not give him more opportunity to lie and hurt you. Google for his email address. You should find all the proof you need.

Here is a link to one I found on romancescam,com:

http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewto ... 5&p=131797

Scamming is his way of making a living. You are his business. If you have sent him money, you cannot ever hope to get a penny back. Do not fall for any offers from law enforcement to recover money lost. These are called recovery scams.

If you have received or cashed checks for the scammer, notify your local law enforcement agency immediately to avoid being implicated as an accessory to a crime.

If you have given out any personal or financial information to this scammer - act quickly to notify banks and creditors and change any information you might have given. If necessary, abandon this email address and get another. Change your passwords immediately.

For more information you can read up on internet scams on sites like scamwarners.com, romancescams.org, romancescam.com and the US government site fakechecks.org. Learn how to recognize scammers and protect yourself in the future.

Sincerely,
Johann Meister
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by Ralph Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:38 pm
Hi Messi

Welcome to Scamwarners

Johann is one of our support team and his warning is genuine.

I dont know the details but it would be a safe bet that this person is an African man who makes a living by convincing women to send him money.

You will be safe, he will not be travelling to you to do you any harm but please completely ignore any of his attempts to contact you.

If you have any questions, please ask

To protect Johann's identity I will remove his email address from your post
by messi123 Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:45 pm
Thank you sorry i meant to remove email addresses.

And just in case i did not say already and if all this is genuine, then thank you....

I can't believe how genuine all those emails from him seemed.

I am normally so careful and can't believe i overlooked the simple things....
by The Enchantress Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:54 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners messi.

As Ralph stated the warning is genuine. We are here to help you anyway we can.

Please cease all contact with this scammer - and please post any questions or concerns.

Photos - are scammers using yours? click here
Are you falling for a love scammer? click here
Never send money by Western Union/Moneygram.
Never give personal information.
Online anyone can claim to be anyone, any age and from anywhere.
by Ralph Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:59 pm
Messi, it is easy to overlook the simple things when you are not looking for them.

Please take a look through this guide http://scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3607 then take another look over the emails you received and I am sure you will see many things that you did not notice before.

There is no doubt that the person you were warned about is a scammer.
by messi123 Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:05 pm
Thank you Ralph

This is exactly what i did and used this information to go over everything they said.

I suppose i should be thankful really. really all this cost me was my pride...

Thanks again for this.... :oops:
by Ralph Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:39 pm
You may have lost some pride which you will get back.

But you got knowledge that will keep helping you and those around you.

Sounds like a fair trade to me ;)
by messi123 Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:05 pm
thank you

you have restored the little faith that i have that there are decent people still out there
by Johann Meister Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:09 pm
Hey :) Glad about your reply. Really, very glad. We have found so much on this scammer and he must really be successful. Again, glad you took the time for reading and for following the links to here.

Do not worry about him knowing your work address. He will not come. If I remember correctly, he is from Malaysia. If you just kee p quiet on him and ignore him completely, he will soon move on to other "jobs" he no doubt is running. :(
Please be aware that there have never been any true emotions from him. He himself is a fiction. The real person is a Nigerian "student" with a student Visa who does nothing else but scamming on the internet, by registering with White Men fake profiles on as many sites as he can. I´m afraid this is the sad truth.

Have you googled your chatter´s or "business partner´s" email yet? It might lead you to ScamWarners...
by messi123 Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:40 pm
Thank you again Johann

You have saved me a lot of possible heartache and I can't thank you enough

I hate the fact that he maybe doing this to others, but I only hope you help them as you did me.

The site I used, i have reported him to them as he is still active on there,,,, i just gave them his email address, and a few useful links and left it at that..

nothing malice as I followed the advice and did not want to aggravate this person.

But I think i might have just won the award for being the most gullible person on the planet
by Johann Meister Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:48 pm
I believe most of us have become scamfighters because we cannot stand this way the professional liars are making money (and lots of it). Many many have also been scam victims at a time of their life. It is a very common thing actually, you are by far not alone, and you have never been anything like stupid or gullible, you simply were not aware of the extent of this crime. Do not put any blame on yourself. You have done the right thing now :) by ignoring him. And the next one you will no doubt spot very very early if you follow Ralph´s educational link from above. That´s as much of a victory as it can be IMO.

Have you googled your chatter´s or "business partner´s" email yet? It might lead you to ScamWarners...
by Ralph Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:58 pm
Messi, take a look through our romance forum and the "Is This A Scam" forums, you are certainly not alone and lots of people end up much worse off than you have, you are not stupid or gullible for being caught up with a scammer, their job is to lie, cheat and steal and they can get very good at doing it.

Reporting him to the dating site will have little to no effect on the scammer's ability to scam, he will simply create a new profile, perhaps even using much the same name or he will rely on one of the many other profiles he will have set up.

I know it can be hard to understand that having their profiles removed actually can help them in some ways, if they begin to use a new email address or name that is not listed on a site like this they may avoid being found out by a potential victim who is doing some searches.

That said, a victim who is in the very early stages with him may notice his profile has been deleted and ask questions, unfortunately scammers have a good ready excuse for this and they may tell their victims that they removed it themsleves because their current victims are the only one and that they "Have found their missing rib"

Having email addresses closed and profiles deleted is part of every day life for a scammer, they know how to quickly adapt to these situations.

Well done also to Johann, he has been helping scam victims for a couple of years and has helped many people to avoid being scammed in that time, great work :=)

Johann was posting as I was writing this so some of what I have posted is doubled up, it cant hurt to hear it twice though :wink:
by Johann Meister Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:28 pm
^^ Days like these are like air under our wings :)

Have you googled your chatter´s or "business partner´s" email yet? It might lead you to ScamWarners...
by Jillian Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:50 pm
Hi Messi, glad to see you here on the forum. I received and replied to your email as well, not having seen this thread before doing so. It looks like you're in great hands here. Good luck to you. :D

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by began steele Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:52 pm
I am so glad that you have escaped with no loss. We all work very hard to protect those like you. Now you have become seasoned, and so remember this site, and in turn perhaps read a bit and recognise scammers and contribute to helping others. Know how they do money asks, and how to check IP numbers and you are well away ! And of course, any money ask, or "seemingly innocent" money deal on internet is a scam.

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. ~~ George Orwell.

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